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Authentic Viking DNA From 1,000-Year-Old Skeletons

FiReaNGeL writes "Scientists were able to extract authentic DNA from ancient Viking skeletons, avoiding many of the problems of contamination faced by past researchers. Analysis of DNA from the remains of ancient humans provides valuable insights into such important questions as the origin of genetic diseases, migration patterns of our forefathers and tribal and family patterns. Using freshly sampled material from ten Viking skeletons from around AD 1,000, from a non-Christian burial site on the Danish island of Funen, Dissing and colleagues showed that it is indeed possible to retrieve authentic DNA from ancient humans."

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  1. So by bobwrit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now we can reincarnate the vikings. Good job.

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  2. Neat. by Paranatural · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This should be interesting. I wonder if we'll find out one of the Native American Tribes was heavily interbred with some vikings.

    In any case, the really interesting thing is that this will really show us how each race of humans developed and spread, and who came from who.

    Of course, we'll find that it all started 6,000 years ago, in a garden in the Middle East...

    1. Re:Neat. by The+Anarchist+Avenge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I went hitchhiking through western Minnesota a few years back, I met a Dakota man living on the reservation in Sisseton. He claimed that his grandfather told him the story of how he helped bury one of the "white giants", blond and fair skinned men "as tall as you could reach".
      I took it with a grain of salt, but it's still one hell of a story - the ladies love it when I tell it around a campfire at night.

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  3. Most obvious question: by r_jensen11 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How drastically would their DNA differ from that of current Norweigians, Swedes, and Danes? I dare not mention the Finns, lest some the Scandinavians go viking-shit on me.

    But seriously, though; has the modern gene pool been dramatically changed due to southern neighbors migrating north?

    1. Re:Most obvious question: by dapyx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, the Icelanders have a rather high percentage of Irish genes! Those vikings of Iceland loved to raid the nearby Ireland to get some fresh women for themselves.

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    2. Re:Most obvious question: by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "has the modern gene pool been dramatically changed due to southern neighbors migrating north?"

      I think finding the answer to that question might be one reason to do this study. How else to know but to actually compare the present and older populations?

    3. Re:Most obvious question: by catmistake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure it went the other way... After conquering much of northern Europe the Vikings interbred with the locals, 'diluting' their gene pool by coming down from the North, not by southerners conquering north and doing the same thing. Have European ancestry? Chances are you've got Viking in there somewhere.

  4. Samples' mtDNA haplogroups by swid27 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For the lazy, the samples found were:

    • 5 in Haplogroup H;
    • 1 in Haplogroup K;
    • 1 in Haplogroup I;
    • 1 in Haplogroup T2;
    • 1 in Haplogroup U5a1a;
    • 1 in Haplogroup X2c;

    All of those are found in Europe to varying degrees; the only item of note is that the K and one of the H samples had no exact matches when compared to a database containing over 15,000 mtDNA sequences.

  5. Re:next step by denzacar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And like someone else here said - just make them all female.
    Any missing DNA could be taken from frogs.

    And then, with some luck, Trekkies will finally be able to have their green-skinned Orion slave girl fantasies based on actual, real life girls.
    Associating with them, James T. Kirk style, would naturally remain a fantasy for nearly all of the Trekkies.
    There are some things even unscrupulous genetic crimes against nature can't help with.

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  6. Probably no change at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Probably no change at all. Scandinavia has never been pillaged or conquered with mass invasions by foreign soldiers.

    However, There are a high percent of foreign female(!) genes in Scandinava. Apparently, 30% of the females in Iceland have Irish genes (mtDNA), whereas less than five per cent of the men (Y-chromosome) have it. We can probably guess how the women came there, but I'm not so sure about the men... :)

  7. Do you NEED velociraptors? by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At the Battle of Stamford Bridge, allegedly one single Berserker held the bridge and blocked Harold Godwinson's advance long enough for Harald Sigurdsson's army to assemble. Essentially denied Godwinson the element of surprise.

    One guy. Vs the whole freaking Saxon army. What was _left_ of that Saxon army after the battle, was still enough to put up a battle at Hastings, so the original size must have been even more impressive.

    I dunno, I'd vote that this is one of those cases where one should resist trying to improve what's perfectly good as it is. I'm not sure if the velociraptor genes wouldn't actually make it worse. And not in a good way.

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  8. Re:next step by KeithJM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what if the only dna they got were from guys? the "make them females" doesn't sound too good anymore Females have two X chromosomes. Males have one X and one Y. You could duplicate the X chromosome and pull out the Y (that would mean that the females would be just as susceptible to some common X- chromosome related conditions like color blindness, though).
  9. Mom? by dwrugh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My mtDNA is T2 so I guess that means mom was descended from Vikings... The Vikings were raiding Ireland before AD 1000 and carrying out the most winsome lasses so I'd guess that's where some of the mtDNA came from. Ancient Celtic Warriors: Vikings and Irish at War Viking Settlemnent in Ireland

  10. Re:Go look up the definition of Ancient... by corbettw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're kidding, right? Let's look at the world of 1008 AD, and you tell me if it sounds ancient:

    The English language didn't exist.
    There were no ocean-going trade routes between Europe and East Asia.
    Iceland had just had their first allthing, but other than that there were no democracies or republics in existence.
    Spain was a Muslim province. Oh, and the Spanish language didn't exist, either.
    The wild notion that the earth orbited the sun, and not the other way around, would not have scientific and mathematical constructs to support it for another 531 years.
    The Roman Empire still existed (at least its Eastern Half).
    The only religion in most of Europe was Roman Catholicism (the Vikings converted in the previous century).
    The average person never traveled more than seven miles from the place of his or her birth, and could not conceive of communicating with people more than shouting distance away. They couldn't even write, only priests could (Charlemagne was notable as one of the only medieval rulers who could sign his own name).

    About 33 generations have passed since 1008. If you don't think that's a long time, when was the last time you spoke with your great-great-grandfather in person? He was only four generations removed, and he was probably dead before you were born. 1000 years is a freakishly long time in terms of human life, culture, and advancement.

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  11. Re:Vikings come to Jurrasic Park by Carthag · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Hägar is an unfunny abomination and has very little to do with real vikings. Check out some real (& mythical) shieldmaidens.

    For instance Leif Eriksen's sister Freydis Eriksdatter who attacked the Skraeling (Indians) while pregnant.

    Freydis came out and saw how they were retreating. She called out, "Why run you away from such worthless creatures, stout men that ye are, when, as seems to me likely, you might slaughter them like so many cattle? Let me but have a weapon, I think I could fight better than any of you." They gave no heed to what she said. Freydis endeavoured to accompany them, still she soon lagged behind, because she was not well [pregnant]; she went after them into the wood, and the Skrælingar directed their pursuit after her. She came upon a dead man; Thorbrand, Snorri's son, with a flat stone fixed in his head; his sword lay beside him, so she took it up and prepared to defend herself therewith.
    Then came the Skrælingar upon her. She let down her sark and struck her breast with the naked sword. At this they were frightened, rushed off to their boats, and fled away. Karlsefni and the rest came up to her and praised her zeal.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freydís_Eiríksdóttir
  12. Re:next step by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've heard that until recently there were still Vikings in Britain. A community of shepherds in a remote area still spoke an private language amongst themselves. When WW2 broke out, some of them ended up being based in Iceland, and discovered that they could understand the Icelandic speaking locals. Their 'private language' turned out to be Old Norse, handed down from their Viking ancestors.

    A lot of people in remote northern parts of the UK have been shown to have Viking DNA.