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Moving Between Countries?

An anonymous reader writes "In six months' time, I am packing up and moving from Australia (Melbourne) to Canada (Vancouver). I'm a qualified network engineer. What I want to know is, what sort of quirks and tricks I am going to have to get used to in the Canadian job market? I'm used to Australian recruiters, and all the hoops you have to jump through, but Canada may have different hoops. I've tried contacting recruiters directly for information but they don't really give out much, as I am not actually in the country yet and therefore not worth their time. Is anyone willing to share their experiences on making the big move from country to country?"

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  1. #1: Beware of Moose by dangitman · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are known to drop from the trees and surprise foreigners with deadly force.

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    1. Re:#1: Beware of Moose by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      #1: Beware of Moose (Score:5, Insightful) by dangitman (862676) Alter Relationship on Sunday June 01, @09:41AM (#23615699) They are known to drop from the trees and surprise foreigners with deadly force. Looks like the mods today skipped biology Let me tell you about the Australian hoopsnake.
    2. Re:#1: Beware of Moose by definate · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean like drop bears? We know all about drop bears in Australia.

      That's why when Yanks that aren't used to drop bears come to the forests out here, we make sure they wear a helmet.

      That and it is funny.

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    3. Re:#1: Beware of Moose by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean like drop bears? We know all about drop bears in Australia.

      Sure, Australians know about drop bears, but these are Moose! Much heavier.

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    4. Re:#1: Beware of Moose by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

      They are known to drop from the trees and surprise foreigners with deadly force. A Møøse once bit my sister...
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    5. Re:#1: Beware of Moose by MortenMW · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's nothing compared to the Norwegian blue parrot! It's always so calm that it's scary

  2. Re:Huh? by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a very broad and vague question. That's a very broad and vague comment.
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  3. Re:Huh? by Vectronic · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a very vague comment about broads...

  4. Re:always, Always, ALWAYS, talk to a lawyer... by Vectronic · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's probably a lawyer, looking for work.

  5. Re:I'm in Australia (Adelaide) Looking to move cou by felipekk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet Americans are wondering why on earth we would want to leave Australia..... I guess the kangaroos won?
  6. Re:I'm in Australia (Adelaide) Looking to move cou by mrbluze · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess the kangaroos won? They haven't won a grand final in freakin' ages. Not likely!
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  7. Re:always, Always, ALWAYS, talk to a lawyer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    I've moved countries too, a couple of times. I've found the best technique is to arm yourself with a good sense of humour then stumble your way into the country making snap decisions as you go. I mean c'mon! You wanna suck all the fun out of it??

    Oh, get a local girlfriend as quick as you can, that usually clears up any minor details you missed on your first pass.

    Bonne chance!

  8. Re:always, Always, ALWAYS, talk to a lawyer... by martin-boundary · · Score: 2, Funny

    He's probably a lawyer, looking for work.
    The local regulations on Slashdot prohibit soliciting work for any member of the legal profession. This is clearly laid out in Regulation 47(b), Section 12, Paragraph 2, as amended in Appendix 14, Section 7, Paragraph 1 of the Slashdot Code Of Conduct Manual, Third Revised Edition of 2007. There are plenty of slashdot members who could have informed him of that for $100-$200.
  9. Re:Job references by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Funny
    That's why your reference has to be read in a specific way:
    • X has been employed by us - X has been the cause for a disaster that we don't want to talk about and we have 'suggested' that he ended the employment.
    • X has been working for us during N years. - X has been the cause for several near disasters during the years he has been working for us.
    • X has been doing a good job - X is not a very remarkable person, neither good or bad. (average joe)
    • X has been doing a very good job - X doesn't produce disasters, and delivers a bit above average without any real surprises.
    • X has been doing an excellent job - We would recommend you to employ X, but don't pay him too much!
    • X has been doing an outstanding job - You are stupid if you don't employ X.
    • X has been a cornerstone in our company. - We are fu*d stupid to let him have reasons to leave us.
    And in general - if an old employer gives incorrect references that can come back to bite them really hard, so that is very seldom a problem.
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  10. The jokes I used to tell new Immigrants by William+Robinson · · Score: 2, Funny
    The new immigrants in Canada are called "Landed Immigrants". FYI.

    Richard dies and his soul is met by St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. "Welcome Richard," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We are not able to dig information related to you and we don't seem to know what to do with you. Why not go around and have a look at heaven and hell both, before we find about you."

    So Richard decides to have a look at heaven. It is whitish, full of saintly decent people, talking about all good and nice things. Richard got bored very fast.

    He decides to have a look at hell, and to his surprise, hell is full of beaches, nice beautiful chicks in bikini moving around, Malls, restaurants, flyovers, gardens, maple trees...it almost looked like Canada.

    Richard comes back and before he could spell his choice, St Peter says, "You have been brought here by mistake. You still have 7 days of life to enjoy on earth."

    Richard goes back happily on earth and returns after 7 days. St Peter welcomes him and says, "You have been pretty decent guy on earth. You have choice to make. Where would you like to go? Heaven or hell?" Without hesitation, Richard chooses hell.

    St. Peter decides to check on Richard after 6 months. He found Richard in shock and misery. St Peter wants to know what happened with him. Richard looks deep in space and says "I am jobless, and have no credit cards. I got some temporary job but paid heavy taxes. Nobody would give me credit cards. I can see chicks but can't touch them. Last 6 months I have found myself frustrated beyond you could imagine.".

    After gaining some control of himself, Richard looks at St Peter, and asks "When I came here first, I wished I was here forever. Why am I frustrated now?". St Peter smiles and says, "That time you were on visitor visa. Now you are landed immigrant."

  11. Re:I work in Canada by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    The reason why they are not supposed to take up references until after an offer is because you might not have told your boss you are looking until after you have a job to go to. It might ruin your job prospects of your boss finds out you are job hunting.

    ... alternatively, it's the quickest way to a fat raise.

  12. Re:Job references by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 4, Funny

    When we called to get the reference of a new woman, her old place of employment went on and on about how great she was. Turns out, they forgot how great of an employee was. They offered her old job to her at a higher pay.

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  13. Re:Just do it by Peil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here in the UK the reputation of some of the nationalities can be summed up as follows:

    Aussies - Loud, but nothing you can't deal with, borderline alcoholics, willing to get the job done as soon as. Frequently complain about the weather

    South Africans - Loud, arrogant sods - Why did they all leave to come and work in 'this rainy shithole' - you'll never get a straight answer. Can also be spotted by the conversation starter of "Wheneyes" as in "Wheneyes back in Cape Town"

    Kiwis - Often mistaken for Aussies, but eventually their inability to stop stroking woollen garments comes to the fore.

    Brits - Lazy, opinionated, unfit, wondering why we work 40 hrs a week when we could have sat on the dole instead.

  14. Re:A qualified network engineer? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    You also can't call yourself a software architect - architect is another regulated profession.

    Besides, when someone at a party asks you what you do for a living, which is the cooler answer:

    • [_] "I'm a software architect."
    • [_] "I'm a software engineer"
    • [X] "I'm a writer."

    As for the network engineer, if you're foolish enough to admit to it at a party, you're going to have everyone asking you why their DSL service is so shitty and what you can do to help them. Better off telling everyone you're a pimp, politician, or lawyer (but I'm being redundant).

  15. Re:Job references by mikael · · Score: 3, Funny

    And also:

    X has been given a office desk in the basement - Sometime in the past we decided to discontinue X's employment, but the request never made it through to HR.

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  16. How to Live and Work in Canada by florescent_beige · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Concise Guide

    Number One

    Don't say 'oot and aboot' that's just stupid. And if you looked at that and thought those should have been double quotes, I'd hire you.

    Number Two

    Canadian girls are easy except in Toronto Montreal Calgary Vancouver St John St Johns Halifax Quebec City Gander and lets see where else have I lived...

    Number Three

    There is one city called St. John and another one called St Johns nobody knows which is which

    Number Four

    Pants are expected to be worn at work

    Number Six

    Math skills are important for getting a job

    Number Seven

    Is a nice number. Too bad that movie had to ruin it for me

    Number Three Redux

    I just looked it up and St John is where they actually do say oot and aboot

    Number Five

    Better late than never

    Number Eight

    Montreal has potholes and Toronto has that smell so take your pick. In Calgary, bring your own cardboard box to live in. Vancouver has a commuter train that takes you into the middle of the woods.

    Number Nine

    Saskatchewan is flat because the 6000 kph winds blew all the hills into Lake Superior

    Number Ten

    There are lots of high tech jobs in Ottawa but the only thing to do there in your spare time is laugh at Corel's office building.

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  17. Re:I work in Canada by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Funny

    On that scale, five bucks for a phonecall is totally worth the money. On that note, I don't know if anyone has told you (OP) that we use wild animals as currency here in Canada. Make sure to arrange to have some moose and beavers ready for you when you get here unless you want to walk from the airport.

    - RG>
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  18. Re:Step 1 by DirtySouthAfrican · · Score: 2, Funny

    step 4 throw back out shoveling driveway and wipe out on black ice while checking your mail =)

  19. Re:I'm in Australia (Adelaide) Looking to move cou by chubs730 · · Score: 2, Funny

    specifically NY/California. Specifically eh? You'll find they are on opposite sides of the country. (sorry)
  20. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Canada? Computers? When did that happen.