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The Neuroscience of Illusions and Dictionaries

Scientific American is running a pair of stories about what words and illusions can tell us about the brain. Mark Changizi of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is interviewed about his research into the relationship between the mechanisms of the brain and the evolution of language. The second article contains a slide-show of various illusions and why the brain interprets them as it does.

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  1. Link to the meat by SheeEttin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Link to the one-page/print version of the dictionary article and the meat of the illusion article
    Also, a summary of the illusion article: The brain uses context, rather than absolute sampling.

  2. So can somebody explain? by quokkapox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do LED clocks jiggle up and down when I'm eating crunchy things?

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    1. Re:So can somebody explain? by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Informative

      The LEDs aren't actually illuminated all the time. They are actually flashing very fast - faster than your brain can discern. When you eat crunchy foods, it vibrates your head (and therefore, your retinas) at a frequency sufficient to allow some of the LED flashes to appear above or below the other flashes.

    2. Re:So can somebody explain? by LordCobalt · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...And another reason might be if you wear glasses, the chewing action will alter where your glasses actually focus on.

    3. Re:So can somebody explain? by Eighty7 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hang on, do you weigh less than a duck.

    4. Re:So can somebody explain? by Moodie-1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dachannien's explanation is the correct one. LEDs sometimes use 'multiplexing' power sources, causing the segments to flicker when you move your eyes quickly. This is also true of some of the newer LED automobile tailights.

    5. Re:So can somebody explain? by Trogre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can discern Pulse-Width Modulated LEDs without eating :) By rapidly oscillating my eyes I can tell you in a second which light sources in a room are PWM. Car brake lights, dashboard lights, billboard signs, power LEDs - it's surprising how much equipment is now PWMd. That unfortunately includes other POV-based technologies like DLP. I see the rainbow effect in every single-chip implementation that I've ever come across.

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  3. Binocular vision and elephants by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For the evolution of forward-facing eyes, I am arguing that it is for a kind of x-ray vision. It actually allows us to see through stuff--like when you hold up a finger vertically and you see through it instead of beyond it. For animals that are large and living in forested environments, there should be selection pressure for forward-facing eyes, because you can actually see more of your environment.
    That makes a lot of sense, and is very interesting to me since I recall learning that predators have forward facing eyes so they can better detect movement of prey (binocular vision) while prey animals have outward facing eyes so they can better be aware of threats (greater field of vision).

    I had always wondered why elephants had forward-facing eyes, since they are not predators... and this helps explain it. I had always supposed that it was because they were social animals, and communication ability and multiple individuals scanning for threats was better than one individual with a larger field of view. This makes even more sense if the scanning in a smaller area is more effective due to the binocular vision associated with forward-facing eyes.
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    1. Re:Binocular vision and elephants by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually a short film on National Geographic made a good point.

      If we didn't have forward facing eyes, just how effective would our hands be? We'd have lots of trouble grabbing things, because we'd have a very hard time judging the proper distance. Same with manipulating things.

      Granted, elephants aren't exactly known for having hands, but they do use their trunk for a LOT of gripping and manipulating. How much trouble would they have, if they didn't have forward facing eyes?

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    2. Re:Binocular vision and elephants by HadouKen24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be pretty nasty for a biped--or anything of substantial size, really. Chameleons can get away with it since they don't have to worry about falling down or running into things. Unfortunately, having eyes that can move about like that requires putting them outside the skull to some degree, which puts them in serious danger. One bad headlong rush into a tree or down a flight of stairs could blind such a creature forever.

  4. Rods and cones by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the first FA, Changizi states his hypothesis that primates evolved color vision in order to detect changes in emotional state indicated by things like blushing/flushing of the face. I find this a bit problematic, primarily because it doesn't explain why our vision evolved to respond to three different wavelength ranges of light (red, green, and blue). It would make more sense to have only evolved cones responsive to red light, or perhaps red and one other color, if that were the only reason.

    It seems to me that a more reasonable hypothesis is that trichromatic color vision co-evolved along with the colorings of fruits that primates would find nutritious. Emotional cues seem like a more subtle issue - as well as a mostly-solved problem - that would have taken advantage of color vision that was already partially or fully evolved.

    1. Re:Rods and cones by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But in order to see red best, you need to be able to detect what is not red. If you want to see why, take a photo of a colourful scene then create two versions in Photoshop, make one greyscale, then on the other one, use the channels pallet to look at each channel separately. A bright red object in the red channel will look the same as a white object, while the other channels will show it as very dark. Obviously, human vision doesn't work exactly like this, but the same principle still applies: The best way to detect red is not just to see red in an otherwise grey world, but to have it contrast with other colours.

      Of course, I don't entirely buy the blushing theory, either. And this isn't necessarily saying anything about the way vision actually evolved, as well. But I do think it shows that your reasoning in this case is wrong, even if you are right. The food theory has always made more sense to me when you look at how other species have evolved.

  5. More/Better Optical Illusions by martyb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The second article contains a slide-show of various illusions [CC] [GC] and why the brain interprets them as it does.

    Maybe I missed something, but I found the second article to be a let-down.

    (Warning for epileptics: if visual stimuli can set off a seizure for you, you should probably stay away from the following links. I am not susceptible, but I found the second link to be visually overwhelming at first.)

    IMHO, more interesting galleries of examples can be found at Wikipedia's Optical Illusions page and at Michael Bach's 78 Optical Illusions & Visual Phenomena page.

  6. Difficulty RTFA by pgn674 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is anyone else having trouble reading the second article? The image on the left keeps distracting me, with its pretend turning of ultimate attention attainment.

  7. Re:Brightness and Color Illusions by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Fair enough, sqaure A is a bit darker than the other light grey squares (didn't notice that prior to printing it out) but it is still much lighter than square B.

    You must have done something wrong. I opened the image in Photoshop and used the eye dropper to sample the pixels. The A and B squares are the same.

  8. Re:What a boring article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm with you on this. Major suckage.

    As interesting as the idea (of developing visual acuity and color sensitivity) is, TFA teases us. It mentions that we developed a sensitivity to red because of the blushing mechanism (never mind that people of color probably do not blush like whites), but doesn't give us much more. A slideshow of optical illusions? Whee.

    That being said, it's a compelling idea, but it really belongs in the realm of science fiction and historical fantasy.

    The letter "Y" looks like it does, becaues it looks like a tree? "A" looks like a mountain?

    Meh.

  9. Another Great Resource by Ieshan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Another great resource for this stuff is the "Best Visual Illusion Contest of the Year" page that's sponsored by (and done at) the Vision Science meeting every year:

    http://illusioncontest.neuralcorrelate.com/

    These are the newest and most interesting illusions that are found every year. Some of them are very interesting and quite clever.

  10. Re:Brightness and Color Illusions by hansraj · · Score: 3, Interesting
    As always wikipedia is your friend. The reason for this illusion is summarized in the following line:

    When interpreted as a 3-dimensional scene, our visual system immediately estimates a lighting vector and uses this to judge the property of the material. So, in effect the brain sees something that looks like a 3D image and imagines that there is a source of light somewhere. If you look at the picture again, you would notice that the perceived color difference of the two squares appear distinctly with a mental image of a shadow of the cylinder on the chequered platform. The brain imagines a light source on the upper left side of the picture. Why exactly there? Probably because the cylinder seems to have a lighter shade in that direction and darker on the opposite side, making it seem as if there is a light source in that direction.

    Fascinating really!
  11. Serious conceptual flaws by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quoting from the slide show link:

    It's a fact of neuroscience that everything we experience is actually a figment of our imagination. Although our sensations feel accurate and truthful, they do not necessarily reproduce the physical reality of the outside world. Although our sensations feel accurate and truthful, they do not necessarily reproduce the physical reality of the outside world.

    The whole philosophy of perception that this quote embodies is fundamentally wrong. As an example of this, take a look at the first so-called "illusion" in the slideshow: the Edward Adelson checkerboard-and-shadon example. This is called an "illusion" on the basis that our eyesight "misleads us" by telling us that a light square in the shadow is lighter than a dark one in the light, whereas they are, supposedly, "the same color." By "the same color," what they seem to mean is that the stimulus, i.e., the rays of light reflected or emitted from the squares that hit our retina, have the same spectrum and intensity.

    What they're missing is that the point of vision, and perception in general, isn't to give us information about the rays of light that hit the retina. What vision does is give us information about the objects in our environment, which reflect or emit rays of light. The reason we see the two squares as having different colors, despite the fact that our retinas are getting the exact same pointwise stimulus from them, is because the visual system, using contextual information about light and shadow across the whole scene, can figure out that the surface spectral reflectivity of the two squares must be different. Square B looks lighter than square A because the visual system judges, correctly, that it must reflect more light. Or put alternatively: the visual system figures out that if the two squares were in the same light, the point stimulus from the reflected light rays would be different.

    This is accurately reproducing an aspect of the physical reality of the outside world; vision is accurately reproducing the spectral reflectivity of surfaces in our environment, at the apparent expense of failing to reproduce the spectral distribution of the rays of light that hit our retina. But of course, the answer to that one is that the rays of light aren't the object of visual perception, they're just the means.

    Seeing the squares as different colors is not an illusion. There is only one visual illusion in that example, and they don't remark on it: the illusion of seeing, in a flat surface, a 3D scene with light and shadow. The judgement that the two squares have different colors follows from that, because in the real-world scene the image depicts, those squares would in fact be surfaces with different colors when seen under the same light.

    1. Re:Serious conceptual flaws by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think they're missing that; I bet they'd agree with what you're saying. You just seem to disagree with their terminology (e.g. "illusion").

      No, it's not just a disagreement about terminology. It's a disagreement about what the object of vision is. I take it we all agree that what vision does is to give us information about the environment. The disagreement is about assumptions about what that information is. Is it information about the rays of light that hit the retina, or about the surfaces that reflect or emit those rays of light?

      Note that, in fact, the term "illusion" is not at all under dispute. I'm sure I'm going to agree with the folks who wrote that drivel about what it means for something to be an optical illusion: it's a case where the visual system gives you incorrect information about the object of vision. But this entails precisely that different assumptions about what the object of vision is will yield different conclusions about what is an illusion and what is not.

      Also, what is the difference between seeing 3D in a 2D surface and seeing 3D in a 3D "surface"?

      That in the former case, you're wrong about the object of vision. The object of vision is extended across three dimensions in the former case, but only in two in the latter. Real 3D scenes afford possibilities of action and motion that illusory ones do not. Try and see how far you can go grasping the cylinder in the fake 3D scene.

    2. Re:Serious conceptual flaws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "It's a fact of neuroscience that everything we experience is actually a figment of our imagination. Although our sensations feel accurate and truthful, they do not necessarily reproduce the physical reality of the outside world. Although our sensations feel accurate and truthful, they do not necessarily reproduce the physical reality of the outside world."

      I think you totally misunderstood what they were getting at, poorly chosen words. According to physics of relativity, "insideness vs outsideness" is an illusion of consciousness. Reality is a continuous field. i.e. If we were in a simulation you wouldn't know it. There is no object "out there" per se, all your mind is doing is discretizing a continuous surface of data that you percieve or have access to into chunked-objects that don't really exist. i.e. a tree is not seperate from the earth, which ultimately is not seperate from space, which is ultimately not seperate from the sun, all of these things are continuously connected in ways we don't fully understand.

      How we currently interpret reality is based on what we think we know, not what we actually know. There's a huge difference. A color blind person interprets the features of world differently then someone with full color vision for example, and there are rare 'tetra chromats' that see the world in full four color vision.

      The point is you there are gaps in what we are able to detect and perceive, what you ultimately are perceiving in the end is data, when you go to sleep for instance, you could die and not KNOW that you in fact have died, the only reasonable indicator that you have died would be the fact that you are no longer conscious but you wouldn't ever know that you were not.

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    3. Re:Serious conceptual flaws by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      According to physics of relativity, "insideness vs outsideness" is an illusion of consciousness.

      I don't think physicists have very much to tell us about psychology or philosophy. What they think is not completely irrelevant, but it is not imbued with the authority you pretend it should.

      Reality is a continuous field. i.e. If we were in a simulation you wouldn't know it. There is no object "out there" per se, all your mind is doing is discretizing a continuous surface of data that you percieve or have access to into chunked-objects that don't really exist. i.e. a tree is not seperate from the earth, which ultimately is not seperate from space, which is ultimately not seperate from the sun, all of these things are continuously connected in ways we don't fully understand.

      Your problem is that your claim to know this is self-defeating. In order to "know" all this, you have to rely on your knowledge of a real world that you inhabit and interact with, with everyday objects at everyday scales.

      A more philosophical way of putting it: there are two main, related problems with what you're saying here:

      1. You're giving metaphysical status to the theories of contemporary physics. The "real" world is whatever physics says the world is; therefore, everything that physics leaves out (like everyday experience) must be "illusory."
      2. You're granting metaphysics priority over epistemology. You want us to accept that physics gives us true knowledge of what is "real" and what is "illusory." However, the knowledge that physics offers us is the result of the interactions of people in an everyday world making predictions about what they will experience when they manipulate that everyday world in sophisticated ways. Knowledge of physical theories presupposes participation in the everyday world; therefore physical theories cannot tell us what is "real" and what is "illusory" in the metaphysical sense. You can only rescue that line of thought by assuming that knowledge itself is illusory (which I wouldn't be surprised if you do).

      Needless to say, I don't think physics gives us a metaphysics, and I don't think metaphysical problems have a priority over epistemological ones.

    4. Re:Serious conceptual flaws by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 2

      By 3D "surface", I did not mean the surface of a table or a car, but the entire table or car itself, as a 3D "projection" on, for example, a 4D hyperplane.

      Let me try it this way: perception is about acquiring information about the environment of an organism. The environment isn't just a 3D surface (in the mathematical sense you're using) that the organism sees; it's a world that the organism inhabits. The organism moves around the environment and interacts with its features and objects with its limbs, etc.

      What makes the perception of 3D depth in a 2D drawing an illusion is the fact that it affords you the visual appearance of depth, without affording the organism movement in along three independent axes. The 3D "illusion" of a 3D "surface" that you attributed to vision of real world scenes, on the other hand, does afford movement in three axes. This is precisely the reason it's not illusory: it is fully part of the world that vision, coordinated with the other senses and the organism's possibilities of action, affords the organism.

  12. This is why... by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...strong AI cannot come from the processing of real data. That is not how minds work. Minds exist in a self-contained virtual reality that are periodically updated with real-world sensory data. This is why autism can impact the flow of that data and its connectedness without impacting the underlying mind. They're simply not associated in that way.

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  13. Re:The number three... by icegreentea · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've heard about this before, and I think it's vaguely true. I can easily pick out 3, 4, or even 5 objects without having to count, of having them in any particular formation/sequence. But if you gave me 6 objects in a random configuration (without showing me a lesser number before hand), I really would have to count. Case in point is Roman Numerals (and Chinese I guess). Roman Numerals (now) goes up to III before IV (though apparently it use to go up to IIII). Chinese does the one stroke, two stroke, three stroke thing too, before switching to other symbols (though apparently the Chinese four also derived from a 4 stroke character too).