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McCain Supports Warrantless Domestic Surveillance

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "While there have been shifting reports about McCain's view on warrantless wiretapping, nothing could be clearer than the latest comment by McCain adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin, who said, 'We do not know what lies ahead in our nation's fight against radical Islamic extremists, but John McCain will do everything he can to protect Americans from such threats, including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution.' Article II, of course, is what Bush has argued gives the President virtually unlimited power during war, and McCain has already voted in favor of Telecom Immunity, though he sometimes mentions, to those asking for accountability, wanting to hold hearings about what the telecoms did."

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  1. Hedging our Bets with ParanoidLinux by graveyhead · · Score: 5, Interesting

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  2. Re:Parity by Jor-Al · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You'd think so, but apparently even the rubber-stamp FISA court had too high of standards for Bush & Co. And that's saying something since it's ridiculously easy for the government to get a warrant from FISA (hell there is even an exemption so that you can apply for the warrant 72 hours after the fact).

    To quote a bit from the article on wikipedia just to give some perspective:

    In the period 1979-2006 a total of 22,990 applications for warrants were made to the Court of which 22,985 were approved (sometimes with modifications; or with the splitting up, or combining together, of warrants for legal purposes), and only 5 were definitively rejected.[4]
  3. this comes as a surprise? by gadabyte · · Score: 5, Interesting
    be afraid of president mccain makes a rather compelling case that mccain is an "authoritarian maverick," and exposes many of his worrisome positions. my personal favorite:

    McCain said, "I would rather have a clean government than one...where 'First Amendment rights' are being respected that has become corrupt. If I had my choice I'd rather have a clean government." if he views a clean government as more important than our petty first amendment rights (religion, speech, assembly, press, etc) - what does his penchant for associating with lobbyists, and his history with charles keating say about his respect for our freedoms?

    DANGER, WILL ROBINSON.
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  4. Re:Parity by Jor-Al · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You just made his point. Was I trying to dispute his point? I was in fact clarifying the situation for anyone who may not know as to how ridiculous your request would be to have it rejected by a FISA judge.

    And it is not at all apparent that the standards(what fucking standards???) of the FISA court were too high for Bush. I don't know how substantiated they were, but at around the time this whole thing broke, I remember reading about how such a thing was actually a problem. That the Bush Administrations requests were even too ridiculous for even a FISA judge to approve.