Data Retention Proven to Change Citizen Behavior

G'Quann writes "A new survey shows that data retention laws indeed do influence the behavior of citizens (at least in Germany). 11% had already abstained from using phone, cell phone or e-mail in certain occasions and 52% would not use phone or e-mail for confidential contacts. This is the perfect argument against the standard 'I have nothing to hide' argumentation. Surveillance is not only bad because someone might discover some embarrassment. It changes people. 11% at least."

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Epic ubmitter fail

[DaveV1.0]

his is the perfect argument against the standard 'I have nothing to hide' argumentation.

I guess you didn't think that those 11% might have something to hide. Maybe they were breaking the law. Maybe they were being unethical, which would include semi-legal things like cheating on their SOs. Maybe they are, like so many people on /., paranoid.

The mere fact that 11% changed their behavior does not mean or even imply a problem with said argument. It does imply that 11% actually did have something to hide.

And, that is what I think is behind all this paranoia and over-reaction. You all have something to hide.

Re:Epic ubmitter fail

[DaveV1.0]

a third choice other than "record" and "don't record"?

That is not the choice you provided now it it? Remember this:

Do you tell your mother every single thing you tell your wife in bed?

Or maybe you are breaking the law?

I believe those were YOUR words.

That is why you are a dumb ass and can not win this argument. Now, please shut the fuck up before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

Re:Epic ubmitter fail

[DaveV1.0]

You did not say "censor oneself when Mom is listening". You said "Do you tell your mother every single thing you tell your wife in bed?". That is not even close to the same thing.

Why don't we plug that into your last statement:

Yeah, I remember that, and I'm failing to see how "Do you tell your mother every single thing you tell your wife in bed?" is not analogous to "censors oneself when Big Brother is listening".

Oh, now that we use your own fucking words, your argument falls flat.

Maybe if you weren't a lying little shit who didn't try to retro-actively try to change what was said you could actual put for a decent argument.

You obviously learned to argue from your leftists teachers, who, when faces with an argument they can't win, try to change what they have said or the scope of the argument.