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Former Supreme Court Justice Switches to Video Games

TechDirt is reporting that former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has moved into the one industry that I don't think anyone might have expected, video games. Not only did she speak at a recent gaming conference, she is also working on creating a video game about the courts. "There have been many similar 'civic education' video games out there, like the UN video game to teach kids about world hunger and, my personal favorite, a video game to teach kids how to gerrymander voting districts to get political support. It's not clear how successful any of these sorts of games really are, but it's nice to see a former Supreme Court Justice taking an interest in these sorts of things. Though, some might point out that this could be seen as something of a gimmick, and students might just be better served by adding a decent civics curriculum back into school (it's apparently gone thanks to No Child Left Behind)."

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  1. No Child Left Behind by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dear next president, please kill that program on your first day.

    Thank you.

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    1. Re:No Child Left Behind by geekoid · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That won't work.
      The current administration tends to demand things, but not provide funding. Then when it fails, they start talking about privatization.

      Don't get me wrong, education for all children are critical to the health of the long term existence of any country.

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    2. Re:No Child Left Behind by R2.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, because there weren't any schools failing before that law passed, and states don't have a choice whether to participate.

      Perhaps it doesn't work. Fine. What would you have the government do?

      I'll start: abolish the Dept. of Education and get the Feds out of the schools. Period.

      Don't like that? What's your idea? Don't have one? Then STFU.

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    3. Re:No Child Left Behind by goofy183 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wish my mod points hadn't just expired, you'd be getting one.

      My wife works in special-ed which has an even higher tendency to be litigious than general-ed courses do.

      It is amazing how many parents immediately place blame on teachers for their child not doing well in a class. In many cases it may well be a case of a student and teacher not connecting at some level but jumping directly into "it's the teachers fault" versus trying to find a solution doesn't help and just puts teachers and parents more at odds.

    4. Re:No Child Left Behind by rts008 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll give you the benefit of doubt on this one, but at the same time, look at how the money was spent by the school systems.

      Here, we have a jr. high that has roof leaks because one wall of an entire wing was built over a sink-hole:
      the foundation sinks>the wall tries to fall over to the outside (crack in attached wall goes from 1/2" at floor to 14-22" at roof/decking depending on time of year)>when it rains, water runs in a sheet down the wall>stresses roofing>multiple leaks form at every roof junction.
      There are three trailers set up as classrooms due to lack of classroom space in the main building-two of them had to be set aside as storage due to severe mold and fungus in the trailers.
      With the increased funding instead of dealing with those problems, they instead remodeled the gym, adding more bleachers/seating for the basketball games, built a new football stadium and increased seating, new track, remodeled the two year old baseball field, and hired two more coaches. A $200,00.00 USD bus to take the applicable sports team to away games. (no, it is not used for any other club or department-only sports teams) Oh, and all of the administration/staff got brand new computers. Not the teachers, computer labs, library, or students- just admin and admin staff.

      This is not a cherry picked example, just the one I was intimately familiar with- I see the same happening all over the state. The sad fact that sports uses the biggest chunk of the education budget, not education or learning.

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    5. Re:No Child Left Behind by flappinbooger · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Perhaps we should devise some metrics to determine intelligence before a person is even born, and mandate that the fetus be aborted if they fall below a certain metric.

      Or, how about intelligence tests for the parents, mandating that persons with a combined mental capacity below a certain threshold not be allowed to reproduce?

      Or, how about persons who are alive now that fall below a certain mental ability be euthanized?

      Am I being absurd? Were you? I am, but your comment, while having arguable merit in a purely practical sense, smells like a "slippery slope" kind of thing.

      What if a kid has a health problem that is holding him/her back? What if they're dyslexic? What if they are "visual" learners stuck with teachers who don't grasp that concept and teach otherwise? What if they're abused?

      The good teachers are those who don't give up.

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    6. Re:No Child Left Behind by a1ok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every time someone presents a reasoned argument to change an existing status quo, why does someone have to trot out the 'slippery slope' argument? I'm not a U.S. citizen and don't really want to comment on it, but the No Child Left Behind act is incredibly harmful to any intelligent kids imho, based on what I've read about it (mind you, this is mostly /. comments).

      The GP was suggesting that people with no/little aptitude for thinking aren't steered into professions that require a lot of it. I certainly think it's a good idea - the brighter students can learn at a faster pace (and be positively influenced by having other bright students around them); and when they graduate will hopefully not be as pathetic at work as the current workforce in most industries.

      If a kid is dyslexic or a 'visual learner'; this does not imply anything about their intelligence - I'm sure there are plenty of dumb dyslexics in the world too. For those that aren't; surely the better teachers can guide them well without holding back the rest of the class. I completely fail to see why some kids having health or abuse problems justifies dragging back other kids who, presumably, didn't hurt or abuse them.

    7. Re:No Child Left Behind by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's quite amuzing chatting with all the Indian H1-Bs that I works with: their uniform opinion is that they need to return to India before their kids reach school age, so that their kids can focus on education instead of sports in school. Yes, emerging economies mock our school system, and rightly so.

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    8. Re:No Child Left Behind by religious+freak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your idea may seem logical on its surface, but will ultimately result in creating a permanent underclass and undercutting the principles of meritocracy in our society.

      If someone is born without the help of a good parent/grandparent, they will start out below normal, but given an opportunity will have a shot at contributing significantly to society, if not by themselves directly, through their children who will be taught better.

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  2. USC's Redistricting Game was actually fun... by Trojan35 · · Score: 4, Insightful
  3. Re:O'Connor Voted for "No Child Left Behind" by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When O'Connor voted to tell Florida in 2000 it couldn't recount only some of its ballots Fixed.
  4. Re:Interesting idea by KutuluWare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Legalize highly explosive fireworks and wait a month?

  5. Re:No student allowed to thrive by colinnwn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is a problem in that the Federal government has no mandate to enforce common standards in education. But lets say the states allowed the Federal government that power, and I agree this might be a good thing to do for some under performing schools. I also agree blaming NCLB isn't addressing some of the serious problems. But by the same token, NCLB itself doesn't address the serious problems, and in its implementation is a hindrance to effective education.

    I don't see the evidence that the litigious nature of schools and hyper-sensitive parents have a significant detrimental effect on education. Short of hitting kids, what methods of classroom discipline are teachers scared of using and getting sued for? More to the point, it is the parents that flat don't care to foster a learning environment for their children that create the most problems in schools, and long term in our society.

    There is also a great disparity in funding between schools in rural Alabama vs. inner-city New York, etc. If the Federal government is going to place standards on education, I think school funding should be federalized and equalized based on local expenses and needs for meeting the standards.

    Conversely teachers and administrations are under threat of losing funding and their jobs if children don't pass the NCLB tests. There are 2 problems here, standardized tests don't teach children anything in and of themselves, not all children are good at taking this one kind of pseudo-objectified test, and of course this incentivizes teachers and administrators to teach to the test up to excluding other valuable education to become a well rounded person.

    NCLB must be scratched. If we chose to reenact national standards, we first need to look at the outcome we want, think about how to incentivize that outcome, and then craft subtle regulations and funding mechanisms to create that reality, along with looking at the larger social picture. The bellicose political proclamations that became the NCLB are not an appropriate method to resolve the large and important problems here.

  6. Re:Interesting idea by drsmithy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Describe in a thousand words or less how you accomplish that without facism. [wikipedia.org]

    1. Remove all government fiscal incentives (direct and indirect) for having children.
    2. Thorough and compulsory sex education.
    3. Free contraceptives.

  7. Re:O'Connor Voted for "No Child Left Behind" by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder how many stories of Republican political crimes I could drag up, if I were to reach back a half century, before practically everyone on Slashdot, or their parents even, were even born.

    Um, Clinton? There you go. You don't have to go back a half century. Hell, I thought it was vogue to dig up the Clintons' dirty laundry now that it supports the golden boy, even though it's the same damned laundry the Dems spent 10 years discounting when they were in office.

    Hey, Lincoln was a Republican, and he was honest. I guess if that's all you've got, that's all you can run on.

    Just like you guys have Kennedy, and he was honest. OK, well actually he wasn't.

  8. Re:No student allowed to thrive by Enderandrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You bring up a very good point that I was thinking about earlier. The federal government has no real authority to do I'd say 75% of the things it does given a strict interpretation of the Constitution, yet citizens expect and demand a good deal of services from the Federal Government.

    I could suggest that democracy in action has yielded a good deal amount of power, even if it wasn't implicitly stated, so that the federal government do more.

    Does the government have the right? Arguably no. Should they however attempt to provide services that the people want? That's a good question.

    think about how to incentivize that outcome

    That is a matter of semantics. We increased spending on education across the board, but we're penalizing those who perform poorly. You could look at it as those who perform well are getting more money under the new system.

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  9. Re:Oh, that's dumb. by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That won't happen in a million years. Americans are split evenly on abortion, but, nearly unanimously would prefer that the morons that get themselves pregnant take care of their own problems.

    I fail to see how "taking care of their own problems" excludes abortion.

    Regardless, the GP didn't ask for a solution that would be politically acceptable in the United States of Jesusland, he asked for a way to do it without resorting to fascism (which I assumed was being used in the colloquial "oppressive government" sense). I gave him one - remove external incentives for having children and make it trivial to avoid having children.