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UK Local Councils Spy On Emails and Calls
MrSteveSD writes "The Daily Mail is reporting that local councils have been using the controversial Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) to spy on people's phone and email records. Reasons given for the surveillance include checking for evidence of people storing petrol without permission and investigating unburied animal carcasses. The surveillance was uncovered using Freedom of Information laws. The scope of the RIPA act is staggering. It would be simpler to list who isn't allowed to access your phone and email records. Aside from political action, what can be done technologically to combat this threat? Use Skype rather than the normal telephone?"
Who needs it? *sigh*
The cops want sound with the video from CCTV cameras. They were tired of having to hire silent movie pianists while they watched the citizenry.
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As with all too many of the UK Government's policies, this was introduced with the express intention of dealing with suspected terrorists.
Unfortunately, we Brits are about to get repeatedly hit over the head with the Terrorism Act (2000) - used recently in the case of a man who downloaded the 'Manchester Manual' from the US Department of Justice's servers, and was then arrested - and the Civil Contingencies Act - which allows the Government to suspend democratic process in a 'state of emergency'.
At the present time, the Government are also trying to push through 42 days detention without charge, despite there being no evidence to justify such an increase from the current (and already excessive) 28 days.
I am, like many people I know, looking to leave the UK for a new life abroad.
Also my local council used the law to spy on a family trying to give their kids a decent education http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/11/localgovernment.ukcrime
Or if you want you can download the forms to apply to spy on someone form here http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/ripa/about-ripa/forms/
UK Local Council in "Wasting Tax-Payers' Money and Being Crooked" Shocker. Film at 11.
Next week: local resident arrested for 42 days without charge for putting the bins out too early.
Local councillors are people who are so worthless and incompetent, they can't even be an MP. Why should we trust them with any information at all?
I went for a job in local government just last week and one of the interview questions was "What legislation, acts and policies are relevant to the job?"
I mentioned all the usual - data protection act, freedom of information act, computer misuse act, health and safety at work act as well as standards policies like BS7799 etc. and then I also mentioned RIPA.
The guy interviewing gave the response "Oh I'd not heard of that one before".
Perhaps I should've kept my mouth shut.
This is a country where the most popular entertainment is watching a TV program where people in a house are recorded 24 hours a day.
I doubt people here care that much.
At least they are still giving reasons for the surveillance :)
We won't really be in trouble until they stop with the rationalizations altogether..
Right?
*sigh*
They can send you to prison for not paying your council tax, and do so regularly.
No, they can't. A court may send you to prison. A council can merely bring a case against you, just as you yourself may bring a case against someone who has wronged you. But you don't get to spy on HM Revenue and Customs' e-mails about your tax return under the RIP Act, even though it is known that HMRC screw up thousands of tax calculations every year to the detriment of the citizens concerned and waste billions of pounds of taxpayers' money every year by failing to run their own systems properly.
As the GP said, there is no legitimate reason to grant councils (and numerous other pseudo-government agencies) access to such personal information. On the occasions where there are legitimate grounds for a serious investigation — and they are rare at council level, very rare — it should be possible for the council to go via the court system and/or police to find the information they need with judicial oversight, just like they used to.
There is an increasing mound of evidence to show that laws providing for gross invasion of privacy are being abused on a massive scale for the most trivial of things by pencil pushers who fancy themselves important. There is almost no evidence that councils are using these sweeping powers to get good results in genuine cases where they couldn't have achieved similar results without the powers. It's just a screwed up law, and the sooner it's repealed the better.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
If people really had nothing to hide, then clothing stores would go out of business.
Perhaps that's why some of the best men's clothiers are from England.
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