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'Extreme Programming' Controls Phoenix Mars Lander

pbd points out a story discussing the challenges faced by NASA engineers in designing the code sent to operate the Phoenix Mars Lander. Quoting Computerworld: "On Wednesday, engineers sent up the code to run an actual analysis, but a satellite orbiting Mars, which transfers the data down to the Lander, was offline. Robinson explained that the satellite had been hit with radiation, knocking it into safe mode. 'Space is a harsh environment, and sometimes they just go into safe mode,' he noted. 'It's a minor problem. [The satellite] aborts whatever it was doing and waits for future commanding.' Engineers successfully resent the code on Thursday."

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  1. That's coolness by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not sure about others, but designing software and systems (software & hardware) that understand the data they are using, and when conditions are not right AND know how to go to safe mode rather than just fall apart is awesomeness in physical form.

    Then just considering it a minor problem is an even higher form of awesomeness :)

    As a hobby I build small robotic creations. I can tell you that working with limited resources, and having to deal with the completely unexpected is just brain damage for the fun of it. Testing your new code on the same hardware you've had for months and thinking "I really did not know that you could bend this metal piece with so little force" or "why the hell is it doing that" and find out that you missed a decimal point on force calculations or a typo leaves you reacting with subroutine x instead of y.

    Those engineers have to be fscking proud of their work. I know I would be. Some days I look at code I've had running 24/7 for several years and am amazed, not just at myself, but that I managed to find the bugs and fix the "I didn't know that would happen" issues. It's a lot of type and bounds checking to be certain, but something always creeps in.

    I say they should be proud. The Mars missions have been nothing short of exemplary awesomeness. When they figure out the failure they did have, I'm certain that the absolute goodness they built into it will help reveal totally amazing discoveries about why there was a failure. Nothing simple like metric conversions, or wrong alloy for the screws.

    Makes me want to work with them. :)

    1. Re:That's coolness by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, considering it a minor problem is not irresponsible risk. When you are that cock sure of the equipment you designed that you can think of it as a minor problem when space radiation knocks your system into safe mode for a bit, you have awesome mad design skills, not risk taking behaviors.

      Yes, they used tax payers' money, and I'm pretty glad that I helped contribute in some way. Exploring our solar system and beyond with instrumentation is an absolutely needed step to find more space for all the humans on this planet. Not sure if you have noticed, but there are a few things we are running out of here despite China's one child rule.... room, food, fuel, and some other less dramatic things. Mother nature has a way of balancing things, so she'll kill a lot of us off. If we want to continue growing, expanding, space is the only viable option with current trends and technology. Improving the technology we command and the information that we have is the only way to viable improvements. The space exploration programs aim to do this in very calculated ways, very methodical steps to discover new information on a cost per answer type basis.

      It is NOT irresponsible. There are a lot of irresponsible uses of tax payers' money, but trying to expand human knowledge and capabilities is not.

    2. Re:That's coolness by satoshi1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Linux may not be ready for the desktop, but it is ready for the surface of Mars.
      -Me


      You know, I am actually cool with that. A stable operating system running a mission critical device thousands of miles away is important, everyone who has contributed to the Linux kernel in some way should be proud that their work is enabling us to learn amazing new things about our red neighbor. I think it says a lot that Linux was chosen over some internallly developed OS.

    3. Re:That's coolness by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For a Friday night, that is a very nice thought. A project funded by the public, and at least in part, built by the public. Nothing says OSS works better than that. At least I can't think of anything that does... very nice.

    4. Re:That's coolness by kperson · · Score: 5, Funny

      "A stable operating system running a mission critical device thousands of miles away..."

      Just where the hell do you think Mars is??

    5. Re:That's coolness by funwithBSD · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just hope none of it was LGPL 3.

      I think that would mean that RMS owns Mars.

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    6. Re:That's coolness by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Informative

      TFA appear to be wrong. It runs VxWorks 5.2.

      The confusion probably arose because Wind River also sells a Linux version, and the press sometimes confuses that with VxWorks.

  2. No mention of Extreme Programming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article doesn't state the lander was programmed with Extreme Programming techniques.

    There's just one sentence which says something about "presents extreme programming challenges" which is the closest this article comes to mentioning Extreme Programming.

    1. Re:No mention of Extreme Programming by serge587 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then simply add some suspensefully dangerous music in the background and you have the next generation of thriller movies!

    2. Re:No mention of Extreme Programming by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...whilst hand-coding a real-time, multitasking OS in assembler while suspended over a tank of water filled with hungry sharks. Laser beams optional.

  3. Call me a pragmatist... by Dice · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... but when I hear terms like "EXTREME PROGRAMMING!!!1eleven" I just roll my eyes and stop listening.

  4. Re:Um what by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's definitely more extreme than the so called 'Extreme Programming'. Extreme in a sense that you have to get things right or an extreme amount of time and money will go to extreme waste. That's Extreme. 'Extreme Programming' is mostly about covering your ass, not about getting the code right.

  5. Re:Um what by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    "And somehow I doubt NASA is doing all that."
    And you might be right. That is because this submission was processed with an editorial process called "Extreme Submission Editing", which is a subset of the "agile journalism" methodologies, driven by principles like "test-first publishing" (first publish it, then fix the bugs if there is a stronger "boo!" than usual), "pair editing" (pick any two editors, each one will believe that the other one is going to fix it) and "do the simplest editing possible that could work" (cross yourself, close the eyes and click the "OK, Publish the damned thing!" button). Thanks to the Extreme Submission Editing, Slashdot continues to bring you quality news at an unbeatable price!
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  6. !extreme programming by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Aside from having a strong general dislike for anything 'extreme', this is wrong because this is obviously (at least from what I saw) NOT extreme programming, it's programming for harsh environments (no not Windows :).

    Crappy title.

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  7. Re:Why do they have to do this much coding? by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree, there's something odd about using C to "program" daily instrument movements. They just need coordinate tables, not C programming. If there are conditionals, they cannot be complex enough to justify C, can they? The rovers didn't have very many conditionals for their sequences based on what I read. If something is not as expected, they usually have the rover stop and wait for Earth confirmation, NOT make the robot select contingency options (unless automated driving is on, but it still has low tolerances before going into wait-mode). I suspect the article is confusing the work of two different teams: the "operating" software developers and the instrument sequencers. Some journalists don't know C from a horse shoe......oh wait.

  8. Say What!? by Sam36 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why did they use vxworks instead of linux?

    1. Re:Say What!? by Xiaran · · Score: 3, Informative

      There can be lots of reasons. I like Linux as much as the next guy and have been using is since back in the days when I installed it on my 386 from dozens of floppies(and nearly fried my CRT monitor several time configing X :) Those were the days :) ). But I used to work on a project that used QNX. I was often pestered by people saying "Why cant you do that in WIndows" and then "Why cant you do that in Linux". Frankly we didnt because

      1. We had years of libraries that were QNX specific
      2. There were real time requirements that Plain Linux was not up to(real time linux may be... but you are talking a major porting project)
      3. We had literally man-decades of programming experience in our team.
      4. We were using a database soultion that was not available on Linux(and is still not)

      SO the upshot is... it is often a decision to either have something working now to do the job or wait another few man-years before a (probably buggier) version is done for Linux. Its not anti-Linux. Its just common sense.

  9. Some other interesting points about that article by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Only 8 ovens, which can't be used more than once. Hence all the painstaking deliberations

    about when to really go for a scoop of soil.

    2. Only 3 months before it will get too cold and the lander will (probably) die.

    3. Martian day, (roughly 24hrs 40mins).

    The NASA programmers have been my heroes ever since the hacks they did to Voyager.

    I guess after they've finished the programmers will take up something more relaxing (like working for EA).

    Andy

  10. Re:Why do they have to do this much coding? by dodobh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That close to the metal, with the limited memory space and CPU power? C is probably the highest level language which works.

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