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WWDC '08 Sees Slimmer, Improved, 3G iPhone

Many of us have been watching Apple's WWDC 2008 keynote unfold live. There are many exciting tidbits, but most of all is the announcement of the 3G iPhone. Featuring an even thinner profile, black plastic back, metal buttons, flush headphone jack, improved audio, GPS support, and improved battery life, this is bound to make quite a few people stand up and take notice. Update 18:54 GMT by SM: Best of all it looks like they really took the price point to heart, 8GB iPhones are now $199 and a 16GB model will be available for $299, coming to an Apple store riot near you on July 11,2008.

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  1. Re:Biggest news is... by norminator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My question is how does that affect the price of the other iPods, especially the Nano and the Touch... I guess that will probably be answered in the next couple of minutes... Hopefully, anyway. Maybe it just means larger Nanos at the same price point, and reduced prices on the Touches.

  2. Can existing users upgrade? by sacrilicious · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does Apple allow existing users to upgrade, possibly restarting their 2yr contract, or are they forced to hold to the terms of their previous contract with the old hardware?

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  3. Where's the meat? by stokessd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The OS has had a full point release and there doesn't seem to be much for it.

    Where's iChat or am I supposed to keep spending like $0.15 a text for SMS. Speaking of SMS, where's the damn MMS?

    How about spam filtering on the mail client. This is supposed to be "just like the desktop OS X" so how hard can it be to upgrade the mail client to more completely resemble the functionality of mail.app on the desktop?

    No discussion of how the 1st gen phones will handle location.

    Nice one month slip on the OS and app store.

    So as a 1st generation owner, the only major upgrade in my day to day is the ability to get 3rd party apps. Hopefully 3rd party apps will fill in the gaping holes.

    A little adblock would be super helpful too...

    Sheldon

    1. Re:Where's the meat? by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The OS has had a full point release and there doesn't seem to be much for it. Where's iChat or am I supposed to keep spending like $0.15 a text for SMS. Push services. They even demonstrated an IM client that backgrounds and will be pushed messages.

      Speaking of SMS, where's the damn MMS? I'd like to know too.

      How about spam filtering on the mail client. This is supposed to be "just like the desktop OS X" so how hard can it be to upgrade the mail client to more completely resemble the functionality of mail.app on the desktop? Welcome to 2008. Anyone with half a hunk of brain is using IMAP with server side rules and filtering.

      No discussion of how the 1st gen phones will handle location. No discussion would seem to indicate they will handle it the exact same way they currently do. What's so hard to understand about that?

      Nice one month slip on the OS and app store. Is this your first time using technology? This is hardly a surprise.

      So as a 1st generation owner, the only major upgrade in my day to day is the ability to get 3rd party apps. Hopefully 3rd party apps will fill in the gaping holes. Ummm....yeah...you seemed to miss the point. The 3rd party apps are supposed to do exactly that.

      A little adblock would be super helpful too... See above.
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  4. Re:Biggest news is... by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The question is, can you walk into the store and get an iPhone for this price, without having to sign a 2 year contract.

    The reason the iPhone originally cost so much more than we're used to seeing phones cost, is because it was not subsidized by a 2 year service contract.

    Now that they've lowered the price, can I still walk into the Apple store and buy a new iPhone and walk out without signing a contract.

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  5. Will over seas iphone be unlocked by law and will by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will over seas iphone be unlocked by law and will it work in the us.

  6. Re:Biggest news is... by norminator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, it looks like he didn't have any announcements about prices on iPods, and according to the Apple Store, they're still all the same. But the iPhone was always described as "The best iPod [Apple] has ever made," among other things...

    And now, for $199, you can buy an 8GB 3G iPhone, which is a pretty sweet iPod plus a phone, internet connectivity, 3rd party apps, or you can buy an 8GB nano, which is just an iPod with a tiny screen and a wheel. I understand that this new iPhone price may be subsidized by the carriers, and that it probably locks a customer into the 2 year contract even more than they were with the old iPhone, but still, there's something about seeing these prices on the website that just doesn't sit right. Not to mention that the 8GB iPhone is now $100 less expensive than the 8GB iPod Touch, which has less hardware built into it... (by the way, does the Touch get GPS, too?).

    I'm still expecting either price cuts or big storage increases on the Flash-based iPods. In any case, if I were in the market for a new iPod, I'd wait a little longer before I buy.

  7. Re:And now the small print... by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So how much "more" does someone have to pay every single month for the Iphone that is hidden? Currently, I'm on a bargain-basement Virgin Mobile prepaid plan because I use my mobile phone almost exclusively to arrange rides. This plan costs $160 for two years. If upgrading from a bargain-basement plan designed for occasional voice to a much more expensive data plan would increase my mobile phone bill by an order of magnitude, I'd need a d*** good reason.
  8. Re:2 hours by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I certainly hope not. I for one do NOT like being charged for stuff that should have been there from the start. Come on, Apple(i hope) isn't Microsoft, they shouldn't be pulling this bullshit unless they want their base to turn on them. I feel like I'm using a Microsoft product when I use Leopard, I don't do anything special with my SR macbook, but have had plenty of kernel panics and odd crashes, esp. of iTunes. Really does make me feel like I'm using a Microsoft product. I don't even want to see what their server version is like. I was forced into using a Tiger Open Directory server at work, and its a buggy pile, I shudder to think what Leopard must be like.

    Apple support doesn't help any either. At one point they actually told me that a problem I was experiencing was a bug and that I should have to come up with a workaround, and still charged us an incident for such a lovely revelation. I am having issues getting our new Leopard workstations to connect to the Tiger open directory(another Apple product!) and the support guy hasn't done anything in the past 3 weeks to really help, despite the massive amount of money we are paying Apple.

    Leopard wouldn't bother me so much if we weren't FORCED to use it if we want new hardware. We are starting to replace our aging powermac G5s(which still work for the most part, but as the hardware ages we are running out of spares) and settled on the shiniest Mac Pros that came out in January. However, as part of the deal we were forced to use Leopard, you cannot install Tiger on these machines. So instead of focusing on what our customer needs, we have to deal with an endless Apple bug parade or just stick to aging hardware. There is no middle ground. Apple makes fun of Vista customers going back to XP, but at least they have the option! If I could run Tiger on my macbook or the new mac pros at work, I would in a second but Apple is so arrogant that they refuse to let me do so and instead have to put up with their bullshit.

    Furthermore, Apple seems to not realize that the rest of the world doesn't always work like they do. For example, look at Java. Apple was over a year late on getting Java 6 on the mac, and now it only exists for Leopard 64-bit intel users. WTF? It can run on Windows 2k for crying out loud! There are many more examples of Apple's hubris, but that is one of the best imo. It prevents us from going to Java 6 because we haven't replaced everything here with 64 bit intel Leopard machines....

    The situation with Apple of late kind of reminds me of the ending of Animal Farm, when the rest of the animals couldn't tell the difference between pigs and humans. I am starting to not see the difference between Apple and Microsoft....

  9. Re:Verizon by tzanger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're mixing up technologies. CDMA, TDMA, FDMA, OFDMA are all ways of getting the data in and out of the air. CDMA the cellular technology isn't just the air interface. GSM 3G uses W-CDMA as an air interface. That says nothing about which frequency bands, authentication or other interoperability barriers you'll encounter. It's just the way they utilize the bandwidth. LTE is based on OFDMA, which is kind of like CDMA crossed with TDMA and FDMA (your data is not only XORed with a chipping code like CDMA, but you also have timeslots to transmit them in and a number of subcarriers you're allowed to use.) I don't think you'll see a grand unified mobile network anytime soon. :-)

  10. Re:EBay is happy! by Sancho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It certainly is just preference.

    I've used a Windows Mobile phone for the past 2.5 years. I started tracking my usage of the features. e-mail and web browsing are the two features I use the most. Both are horribly flawed on Windows Mobile.

    Pocket Outlook is great, as long as you're only connecting to Exchange servers. Switch to IMAP, and the server configuration determines the usability, because Pocket Outlook does not support IMAP namespaces properly. The mail server from which I get my mail uses namespaces, and Pocket Outlook locks up when I try to get mail there. I had to do stupid hacks (forwarding mail off, at first, and later using a proxy to re-write requests.)

    Pocket Internet Explorer (PIE) is a different beast. It's crap, even for a mobile browser. Simple pages will render fine, but anything even moderately complex will not work. When I first started using my phone, I just did everything through Google's gateway. That's really not how I want to use the web. Later on, I started using my phone to copy down interesting URLs for perusal at home. The browser on my phone became little more than a portal to IMDB and Wikipedia.

    Opera Mobile is a bit better, but you pay for it, and it's still got rendering issues with some sites.

    What's great about the iPhone, in my opinion, is the support. Even though it has a real web browser, popular websites fall all over themselves trying to put together a version of the site optimized for iPhone's screen. When there isn't an optimized version, you can view the full version (albeit slowly--hopefully 3G will help address that) and zoom specific portions of the page that you want to look at. For me, since what I really want is a data device (I could do without the phone part, honestly), the better the browser and mail client, the better the device. I've tried all the major phone operating systems, and by far, Apple blows them away. RIM does come closest, no doubt, but the web browsing experience just can't compete.

  11. Re:NOT slimmer by ari_j · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait ... 12.3 - 11.6 = 0.7. Does the definition of "a couple" now include 7/10 as a possible meaning?

    It's also possible that "slimmer" meant the average depth over the entire area of the device. Think of how much thinner something seems when the edges taper off compared to something the same maximum thickness but uniform thickness over its area. And remember, Apple cares a great deal about aesthetics.

  12. Re:YEEEEAH! by Yosho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I realize that you're probably being facetious, but take a look at Sprint's SERO plan.

    In a nutshell, if you sign up for a two-year contract through the right avenues, for $30/month you can get 500 minutes, free nights and weekends that start at 7 pm, unlimited in-network calling, unlimited roaming, unlimited text messaging and 3G data, and a few other perks that I don't really use. You can probably also get a pretty hefty chunk off of whatever phone you're planning to buy; I got $350 off of a Mogul.

    For what it's worth, you may not be able to replace your home internet. Tethering is officially not allowed, although I've been connecting my Mogul to my laptop via Bluetooth for mobile 'net access for several months now and nobody seems to have noticed.

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