TSA Bans Flight If You Refuse To Show ID

mytrip notes a CNet blog entry on the recent TSA rule change banning flight to anyone who refuses to produce ID. It's OK if you claim to have lost or forgotten your ID — you undergo a pat-down and hand search of your carry-on bag and you're on your way. The new rule goes into effect June 21. "The change of rules seems to be a pretty obvious case of security theater. Real terrorists do not refuse to show ID. They claim to have lost their ID, or they use a fake. TSA's new rules only protect us from a non-existent breed of terrorists who are unable to lie."

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Re: you can ask...

[ArcherB]

...but currently without reasonable articulable suspicion i don't have to answer.

it's called "at liberty" or BEING FREE. you have no legitimate legal authority to demand anything from me absent such a suspicion of crime afoot in which you suspect me and can articulate exactly why, other than your "hunch" or instant allegation in a court of law. Right. You are free. You are free to drive, walk, take the bus, train, hitchhike or use whatever method of travel your free ass desires. But to get on a plane, you must show ID. You are FREE to make your choice.

got that? see, as an american, i DO NOT have to prove my innocence to avoid more than a slight (Terry v. Ohio) detention and i DO NOT have to answer any questions, nor provide any specific ID or any at all, nor can i be punished for NOT answering/doing so. And TSA has no legal obligation to allow you onto the plane. See how these things work? So you still have a choice. You don't have to show people shit if you don't want to. There, see, your rights are in tact.

Here is where your logic fails. Using your logic, until you do something wrong, like shooting a gun, then TSA has no right to stop you from carrying a loaded gun onto the plane. You have committed no crime, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is literally spelled out quite clearly in the Second Amendment. So are you implying that everyone should be allowed to carry on loaded guns?

Of course not. I'll assume you'll also say that it's OK for TSA to search your bags and person for bombs and/or other weapons. Is that not a violation of the Fourth? Why is it OK for TSA to pat you down and make you empty your pockets, but saying, "may I see your ID" is a violation!??!

Re:Conservative Fascism

[RiotingPacifist]

And real American patriots dont mind being freedom listened.