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BMW Introduces GINA Concept Car, Covered In Fabric

smithtuna33 writes "Ever wondered what the metal skin on your car is actually good for? Engineers at BMW have decided that fabric might work just as well. The doors literally peel away from the side of the car, the engine bay opens up down the middle, and pretty much everything (such as headlamps) is hidden until the fabric reveals it. It is a stunning concept that has already been influencing BMW's designs. The video is well worth watching."

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  1. Re:Very cool by JediLow · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out the video thats linked to it - there's some footage of an actual car (which is covered, so we can't tell for sure if it really is the skinned GINA).

  2. Re:Very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    As far as fabric behaving at high speeds, many early (and not so early) planes used fabric for the wing and fuselage coverings.

  3. Re:Sounds interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Its not said anywhere that the inner panels of the car are missing just the outterskin of metal is replaced with fabric. Crash protection is usually a function of inner frames and panels then anything we see on a car as we look it from the outside.

  4. Re:Finally.. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative
    JThough I can well imagine a jealous walker-by accidentally slashing it with his pocket knife.

    There are already plenty of fabrics which are resistant to casual slashes, and some in the pipeline which are even more durable.

    Vandals can already do a significant amount of damage to a painted metal car body with a knife or even a coin. If the repair costs of the fabric are competitive with metal, it might even reduce costs over the life of the vehicle.

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  5. Re:stupid? by jumpingfred · · Score: 3, Informative

    Are you saying that the thin sheet metal is providing the strength of the car? I was always under the impression that the frame was providing that rigidity of the car.

  6. Re:Sounds interesting... by JediLow · · Score: 2, Informative

    To reply to some of my questions about it: "The special fabric is supported by a metal wire structure. At specific points, the high-strength metal is enhanced by carbon struts with a higher flexibility. They are used predominantly for round, moving contours with a particularly narrow radius."

    Taken from the press release found here

  7. Re:hope they thought this through by spandex_panda · · Score: 3, Informative

    They said in TFA that the shell is NOT part of the crash design, that the space frame takes all this into account, so there is not much purpose left for the shell... Small rocks though... stone chips would be game over! I guess the aerodynamics would be interesting too. Maybe at high speeds you could tighten the fabric up, stretch it so it doesn't deform?

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  8. Re:hope they thought this through by oconnorcjo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wear a kevlar vest as part of my job and while thick, it is flexible.

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  9. Re:Finally.. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative
    And I don't think I've ever encountered ANY fabric that can't be cut with a sharp enough knife

    There are fabrics that can withstand a running chainsaw, and they are in common use.

    Likewise, stab or cut-resistant Vectran fabric is now relatively common. I've worn turn-out gear which is designed to resist that sort of damage, and while it's expensive, it isn't prohibitively so.

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  10. Re:Finally.. by artaxerxes · · Score: 2, Informative

    Whilst they did move to metal bodies eventually, parts of the WWII Spitfire (and many other planes) were initially covered in fabric... and they seemed to do ok.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire

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  11. It works on airplanes by tramm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Airplanes used fabric skins for years. They travel much faster than automobiles, so the strength isn't an issue. Even during WWII, most aluminum bodied aircraft used fabric covered control surfaces to allow easy repair of combat damage -- it is much easier to sew a new patch over a rip than it is to rivet aluminum patches.

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  12. Re:There's a frame under the fabric by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Informative

    A car made out of tubular struts is going to be a lot stronger than the usual cars. Racing cars have their interior replaced with struts for roll and crash cages for the real occasions when they crash and tumble.

    even ordinary cars are basically thin metal stretched over a cage, that's why the door pillars and windscreen are made from hefty bars, the thin bit of metal in your doorframe isn't going to save you from a side-on collision, but the door pillar will. So, I can't see this being any less safe simply because the bit in between are more obvious.

    I think the most important aspect of reduced safety would be in crumple zones, a strut-based car wouldn't necessarily have these, or at least to the same extent that an ordinary car has.

    Don't forget a lot of cars are made from carbon-fibre now. This wouldn't be any real difference to them.

  13. Re:Appropriate name by Ucklak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I consider any engineer making at least twice his age to be making good money.
    I have many friends in the engineering profession and they all make over $80K, including the engineer at a silicone breast making facility.
    Another one that comes to mind is an engineer in sales and makes a $70K base and $50K+ commission + bonuses.

    Changing to a business major doesn't guarantee that type of salary, only a starting of $45K or less as based upon a recent graduate I know.

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  14. Not an *entirely* new idea by nicestepauthor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some of the very early sports cars (1930's) had bodies made of fabric stretched over a wooden frame. Apparently some early hot rods did too, because I think NHRA rules specifically ban this kind of body. Its a fire hazard.

    1. Re:Not an *entirely* new idea by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some of the very early sports cars (1930's) had bodies made of fabric stretched over a wooden frame. Apparently some early hot rods did too, because I think NHRA rules specifically ban this kind of body. Its a fire hazard. No, that's a carry-over rule from demolition derbies. As demolition derby cars were often junkyard cars missing body parts, cloth was a popular but dangerous substitute before it was banned. The rule carried over to the NHRA.
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