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SCOTUS Grants Guantanamo Prisoners Habeas Corpus
beebee and other readers sent word that the US Supreme Court has, by a 5 to 4 majority, ruled that the Constitution applies at Guantanamo. Accused terrorists can now go to federal court to challenge their continued detention (the right to habeas corpus), meaning that civil judges will now have the power to check the government's designation of Gitmo detainees as enemy combatants. This should remedy one of the major issues Human Rights activists have with the detention center. However, Gitmo is unlikely to close any time soon. The NYTimes reporting on the SCOTUS decision goes into more detail on the vigor of the minority opinion. McClatchy reports the outrage the decision has caused on the right, with one senator calling for a Constitutional amendment "to blunt the effect of this decision."
Hello! This is US law we're speaking of. The Magna Carta has no legal bearing on US law, save as a historical footnote.
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Terrorists and any other human who willingly takes another humans life, does not have a soul and therefore, is not a person. They should all be executed swiftly, without question. If another person has the intent to, or has damaged another persons life to the point of non-recovery or death, the individual(s) should be executed. Fuck their "rights" they have no rights. They threw their rights out the door when they decided to commit the senseless crime. Kill em' all. What is the point of having them around? Just fucking kill them.
That's all we ask for. That's why we don't have military tribunals to determine our guilt. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. No, it's not. For starters, the American legal system is public and transparent. Our military is not. If you give these guys public trials with full Constitutional protection, then these guys have a right to face their accusers. Well, that's all fine and dandy, but their accuser may be a covert CIA agent still in the field. Their accuser may be an agent from Pakistan or the Northern Alliance. If outing Valerie Plame was such a horrendous crime, wouldn't this be that much worse? I've been through military court proceedings and I can assure you that they are fair and efficient since much of the legal bullshit, legalese and delaying proceedings have pulled out. They are also secret, which would protect undercover agents in the field.
Besides, I trust our military tribunal system much more than I trust the justice system that let OJ go free! Either way, it's not like we WANT to let everyone in Gitmo, or anyone else, get off scot free. I am an American, and trust me, Americans are better than these scum we are fighting. If I learned one thing in a basic civics class, it's that we are better than everyone else precisely because we hold ourselves to higher standards (or, at least, we're supposed to be, and we're supposed to do that). I agree that these guys deserve proceedings to determine if they belong, and they were getting those proceedings. Those that are determined to no longer be a danger to the US and have no information worthy of seeking should be released and maybe even compensated for their time. However, I do not think that those proceedings should be done in public, or in civilian courts (unless the detainee is a US citizen, of course). This is a military matter and should be handled by the military.
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I accept your concession. Though you should look into that "strawman" word you're misusing. It doesn't mean "superior argument", and "pathetic" doesn't really mean "made you cry".
But at least I shut up another delusional Republican by confronting your denial. You should stay indoors until you're worked that out.
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