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A 30-Picowatt Processor For Sensors

Roland Piquepaille writes "University of Michigan (U-M) researchers have developed an ultra low power microchip which 'uses 30,000 times less power in sleep mode and 10 times less in active mode than comparable chips now on the market.' It only consumes 30 picowatts in sleep mode, which means that a simple watch battery could power the chip for more than 200 years. Of course, this is not a processor for your next computer. It is designed for sensor-based devices such as medical implants, environment monitors or surveillance equipment. However, the design is very clever." Roland's blog has some more information, including a die picture of the chip, known as the Phoenix.

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  1. Doc Oc... by clang_jangle · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...might want a Beowu ---- oh, forgive me. I know where the door is...

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    1. Re:Doc Oc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't think you know well enough yet. Let me give you a foot-- er, hand.

  2. Watch batteries don't last 263 years... by Cliff+Stoll · · Score: 2, Informative

    The lithium CR1216 batteries on my shelf started corroding after 4 years. Several of the AG3/CX41 alkaline batteries began leaking after 5 years. Still untouched, in their wrappers.

    1. Re:Watch batteries don't last 263 years... by dean.collins · · Score: 3, Interesting

      interesting, I was at the East Coast DFJ venture capital competition a few weeks ago where one of the contestants was a 'radiation based' battery that lasted 20+ years, these two things together could drive a circuit forever. (sorry dont have links). Dean

    2. Re:Watch batteries don't last 263 years... by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are you thinking of an RTG? These things last a few decades before the thermocouples lose the ability to transform the heat to electricity.

    3. Re:Watch batteries don't last 263 years... by dean.collins · · Score: 2, Interesting

      to be honest most of it went over my head but yes it used an isotope to power it, they had sold some samples to lockheed for continuous ciruit running for 20+ years etc at $2000 a pop. one of the points they were making was they could power a pacemake for 20+ years now with this battery, my question was didn't radiation cause problems but apprently not. Cheers, Dean

    4. Re:Watch batteries don't last 263 years... by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative

      The typical RTG uses Pu-238, which is an alpha source and easy to shield.

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  3. 915x915um^2 by cyfer2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can some one explain to me how this chip is connected to the world?

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    1. Re:915x915um^2 by CTho9305 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That die isn't particularly small - 1mm by 1mm. Plenty of existing chips have dies that size, but they're just packaged in larger packages to space out the pins. This picture shows a die (about 3mm*3mm) and the remains of its package so you have an idea of how small a die can be, even in a large package.

    2. Re:915x915um^2 by oldhack · · Score: 2, Funny

      You connect it with Denon's ethernet cable, to get all the most processing power possible.

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  4. The article sucks by Facegarden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is some better info farther into the article, but the first thing they say about the chip is rediculous:

    "So how did these scientists build this very efficient chip? The answer is extremely simple: they've reduced the battery size. 'Phoenix is the same size as its thin-film battery, marking a major achievement. In most cases, batteries are much larger than the processors they power, drastically expanding the size and cost of the entire system, said David Blaauw, a professor in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. For instance, the battery in a laptop computer is about 5,000 times larger than the processor and it provides only a few hours of power.'"

    So... they made it more efficient by giving it a smaller battery? That is so obviously backwards... They can give it a smaller battery because it's more efficient, but not the other way around... Or did i miss something? The article certainly doesn't help explain anything more if that is really come clever something-something going on...
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    1. Re:The article sucks by rm999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are referencing the blog, not the article; the article is more clear about it. They explain that the cool part of this processor is that it is so efficient, it only requires a tiny battery the same size as the processor. The main thing that is preventing portable electronics from being smaller is their battery. Case in point: the laptop which has a battery 5000 times larger than the part that is actually doing the work.

      Kind of an obvious and not so ground breaking statement, but at least it makes sense.

    2. Re:The article sucks by lagfest · · Score: 4, Interesting
      That's how Roland Piquepaille understood it. Stuff like this is why I despise his blag.

      From TFA:

      The timer "isn't an atomic clock," Hanson said. "We keep time to 10 minutes plus or minus a few tenths of a second. For the applications this is designed for, that's okay. You don't need absolute accuracy in a sensor. We've traded that for enormous power savings."

      ...

      Phoenix engineers used much narrower power gates that restrict the flow of electric current. That strategy, coupled with the deliberate use of an older process technology, cut down on energy leaks.

    3. Re:The article sucks by arielCo · · Score: 2, Informative

      So... they made it more efficient by giving it a smaller battery? That is so obviously backwards... They can give it a smaller battery because it's more efficient, but not the other way around... Or did i miss something? The article certainly doesn't help explain anything more if that is really come clever something-something going on... Yup, real dumb. Closer to the proverbial horse's mouth:

      There's nothing special about its size [...] But Phoenix is the same size as its thin-film battery, marking a major achievement. In most cases, batteries are much larger than the processors they power, drastically expanding the size and cost of the entire system [...] "Low power consumption allows us to reduce battery size and thereby overall system size. Our system, including the battery, is projected to be 1,000 times smaller than the smallest known sensing system today" The article goes on to the potential new applications with really tiny sensors, mostly embedding hordes of tiny bugs into the target organism/structure for distributed, robust monitoring.
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    4. Re:The article sucks by Ceriel+Nosforit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Posted by Roland Piquepaille @ 9:38 am

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  5. How I would do it by kipman725 · · Score: 2, Informative

    sounds like it just does automaticly what a micro programed for use with sensors does. Usualy you have a counter in the chip that is driven from a clock pulse derived from the main system clock that generates an interupt (waking the proccesor up) every time it overflows. As each overflow is the same time interval apart this can be used to run a subroutine that checks whether it's time to run the sensing program yet. If it is the sending program is run and the proccesor goes back to sleep only waking on each interupt. Doing this proccesors can be made that consume nano watts of power. Automating this reduces the versitility of the microcontroller, although if it has resulted in good power savings then cool.

  6. Re:But... by kipman725 · · Score: 5, Funny

    no

  7. Theoretically... by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Insightful


    What's with all these idiots who think "theoretically" is a synonym for "not really"? This gem in particular:

    "Theoretically, the energy stored in a watch battery would be enough to run the Phoenix for 263 years."

    Note that it's carefully worded to say "the energy stored in.." not to that a watch battery actually _could_ do this. Because it couldn't. The battery's internal resistance and chemical processes would cause it to drain itself long before you'd ever consume a meaningful portion of that energy.

    Only in very specialized applications where you have extremely weak, but continuous sources of power, could you realize any benefit to a picowatt vs a nanowatt of consumption. For batteries or supercaps, the power source will self-discharge at a much higher rate anyway.

    1. Re:Theoretically... by hvm2hvm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And they are right. I don't work with watts every day so I don't understand exactly what 30pW mean. This is how the human brain works: comparisons with other things in life. You know that a Hummer is big because most other vehicles are smaller. A sky scraper is big only when compared to a 10 story building (which in turn you must compare to your own height). Stop picking on these details, it's pointless. And BTW, your condescending way of saying "I am smart because I can understand the real way of measuring power" is just stupid. Grow up.

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    2. Re:Theoretically... by seanadams.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And they are right. I don't work with watts every day so I don't understand exactly what 30pW mean. This is how the human brain works: comparisons with other things in life. You know that a Hummer is big because most other vehicles are smaller.

      OK.. so distances are better explained in terms of Hummers placed end-to-end, instead of miles? The watch battery comparison is just as meaningless, because people don't need to power anything for 200+ years, nor do they have an intuitive feel for how much energy a watch uses compared to an implanted eye pressure sensor. If you could guess to even within 2-3 orders of magnitude, then you probably already have a feel for the size of a pW anyway.

      This is after all a "news for nerds" site, so some technical information about the invention would be preferable to a PR piece. I don't see why you'd fault your fellow nerd for picking on the details - I'm just going with what's in TFA. However, I went back and read the rest of it and it's actually not bad. The problem is when an article opens with this kind of thing (and the bit about "we made it use less power by making the battery smaller")... it's pretty hard to justify reading the rest.

    3. Re:Theoretically... by hvm2hvm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, distances are not better explained in terms of Hummer lengths rather than miles. That's because people use miles all day and can relate to them (actually kilometers in my case but that's another story). And at least me, when someone tells me that there are 20km from point A to B I still need to compare that to some other distance I know (like from my home to my school, or from my city to my cousin's). Also, they do give technical information about the power usage. They just put an additional information that helps people not familiar with them. I don't see your problem with that, if it doesn't help you let it be, it probably helps someone else. Not everyone thinks like you, try to be more tolerant.

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  8. Chuck Moore is doing things like that quite often by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Measurements show that Phoenix consumes 29.6pW in sleep mode and 2.8pJ/cycle in active mode.â
    Maybe I am miscalculating something, but did not Chuck Moore's x18 perform at about 8.3 pJ/cycle in 2001 already, seven years ago? That was at 1.8 V. I guess things would get much better at 0.5 V. But their idle power is something that seems truly interesting to me. Too bad there is not much info on the design right now. Finally something interesting!
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  9. The art of compromise by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Processors such as the Microchip PIC10F are down to the nanoWatts level. That is more than fine for many/most purposes. These things cost well less than a buck each and include various peripherals. They can operate in a wide range of voltages and temperatures.

    These 30pW sleep mode CPUs will allow things to go to the next level of minaturisation, but will need reduced cost and will need to prove that they are reliable.

    There is a huge issue with power consumption vs stability. Basically, each bit in a CPU holds a certain charge. When you flip the bit and discharge/charge the bit then you're dumping energy which is what results in much of a CPU's power consumption. Storing smaller charge per bit reduces power consumption. But reducing the charge also reduces stability and makes those bits more prone to EMF, leakage etc. Before I'd trust these gizzmos I'd want to see how well they operate at temperature extremes, near microwave ovens, cell phones etc.

    Making them work in a lab is one thing, in the real world is quite another.

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  10. 10 Times Less? How is that possible? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have one item at 10 units of electricity. I have another item using 10 times less electricity. So it uses (10 units * 10 = 100) 100 less units of electricity, for a total of -90 units.

    Does that make any kind of sense to any of you?

    Wouldn't you want to say 1/10th and 1/30,000th? Or even be cool and say "one order of magnitude" or even "5 orders of magnitude and a third applied to the result".

    (please disregard the less/fewer issue here, one thing at a time)

  11. Bad article by UK+Boz · · Score: 5, Informative

    The guy (who admits to not knowing his stuff so perhaps we can forgive him) really hasnt got a clue

    The processor is designed specifically for sensors that wake up, do a few calculations and go back to sleep, these type of devices are genrally battery powered and off grid and generally make a decision whether to power up some other device eg to transmit the data. The device would probably be useless for anything involving serious processing, even the processor in an optical mouse would probably wipe the floor with it!

    Barring that there are billions (yes billions not millions) of sensor devices out there currently using PIC/AMR/8051 derivatives that may benefit from this technology.

    Interestingly we are getting to a level of power where even the most inneficient generator (or a low power radio signal) and a rather small capacitor could power it forever

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  12. Re:But... by mustafap · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, it runs an age old Operating System called "Main Loop".

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  13. If it's 30-picowatt in Sleep mode... by Siriaan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Surely it's a bit of a stretch to call it a "30-picowatt Processor"?

  14. No but Lithiium pacemaker batteries last ... by celtic_hackr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A very long time. I have replaced lithium primary batteries in train equipment that have lasted more than 10 years and still retain most if not all of their power. The batteries are a backup so don;t get used a lot, but the ones used in pacemakers usually last ten or more years. The plain truth here is batteries last as long as the application that they are needed for. Which is why retailers don't sell Lithium chromate batteries to the general masses. Who would ever buy an Duracell when they could own a SAFT Lithium Chromate that lasts 10 time longer?

  15. Re:Body Heat Power by assassinator42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adults eat about 2500000-3000000 calories per day.

  16. Re:A 30-Picowatt Roland for Black Men by jacquesm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    or better still, when you see RolandP take a weeks break from /.

    (at the current RolandP posting frequency that would mean ./ will soon only consist of the editors and Roland...)

    What really gets me is that I get suckered in all the time to just take the stories one by one without checking who posted them and after reading the summary I sort of get this sinking feeling, check back and sure enough... It's like being rickrolled only worse.

  17. Watch battery for 200 years? by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Informative

    > a simple watch battery could power the chip for more than 200 years

    Rubbish! Even if you draw ZERO power from a watch battery, it will be totally flat in less than a tenth of this time. They have a 15-20 year shelf life and obviously that will only get worse if you put it in a device that draws power from it. You would need at least 10 batteries to power the device for 200 years.