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"Intrepid" Supercomputer Fastest In the World

Stony Stevenson writes "The US Department of Energy's (DoE) high performance computing system is now the fastest supercomputer in the world for open science, according to the Top 500 list of the world's fastest computers. The list was announced this week during the International Supercomputing Conference in Dresden, Germany. IBM's Blue Gene/P, known as 'Intrepid,' is located at the Argonne Leadership Computing Facility and is also ranked third fastest overall. The supercomputer has a peak performance of 557 teraflops and achieved a speed of 450.3 teraflops on the Linpack application used to measure speed for the Top 500 rankings. According to the list, 74.8 percent of the world's supercomputers (some 374 systems) use Intel processors, a rise of 4 percent in six months. This represents the biggest slice of the supercomputer cake for the firm ever."

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  1. So ... let met be the first to ask ... by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... will it run Vista with everything on?

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    1. Re:So ... let met be the first to ask ... by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... will it run Vista with everything on?

      Sure it will.

      As long as you don't run any programs.

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    2. Re:So ... let met be the first to ask ... by Gewalt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No. Super computers tend to not have much in the way of graphics cards. Vista will not use software rendering. But for a mere 500$, you could upgrade the beast so it could.

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    3. Re:So ... let met be the first to ask ... by dubloe7 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know, but Crysis looks amazing on it.

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    4. Re:So ... let met be the first to ask ... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please, be realistic. These guys are computer engineers, not miracle workers.

    5. Re:So ... let met be the first to ask ... by awpoopy · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... will it run Vista with everything on? Nothing does.
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  2. Linpack? So does it run Linux? by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently, not necessarily. It's just some Fortran routines.

    So much for that joke.

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    1. Re:Linpack? So does it run Linux? by k_187 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, Intrepid does run linux according to the list.

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    2. Re:Linpack? So does it run Linux? by ZephyrXero · · Score: 3, Funny

      Better question: Does Intrepid run Intrepid?

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  3. Perhaps even more importantly by SpaFF · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is the first time a system on the TOP500 has passed the Petaflop mark.

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    1. Re:Perhaps even more importantly by bunratty · · Score: 2, Informative
      "The supercomputer has a peak performance of 557 teraflops."

      This is the first time a system on the TOP500 has passed the Petaflop mark.
      Or 0.557 petaflops, but who's counting?
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    2. Re:Perhaps even more importantly by clem.dickey · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or 0.557 petaflops, but who's counting?

      You were misled by a terrible headline. The 0.557 petaflop computer is the fastest *for open science.* Roadrunner, at Los Alamos, tops the list. It does 1 petaflop.

  4. Re:what? where? by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Funny

    What happened to Blue Gene M, N and O?

    I'm more concerned about A, C, G and T.

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  5. Supercomputer by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Computer scientists building the monstrosity admit that it still isn't powerful enough to run VISTA with all the bells and whistles turned on.

    George Broussard says that when the next generation of this machine reaches the desktop, Duke Nukem 4ever will be released. "Really", he said, "The game's been finished for over five years now. We're just waiting for a powerful enough computer to play it on."

    Sources say that besides computitng power, DNF is waiting for the holographic display. The The US Department of Energy's (DoE) high performance computing system lacks a holographic display.

    Gamers were reportedly disappointed in the news, although most said the price of the DoE's new computer wouldn't faze them. "After all" one said, "you have to have a decent machine to play any modern game!"

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  6. Does not compute by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative

    The title says: "'Intrepid' Supercomputer Fastest In the World" for open science while the article says "IBM's Blue Gene/P, known as 'Intrepid', is located at the Argonne Leadership Computing Facility and is also ranked third fastest overall." There needs to be some clarification. Roadrunner is considered the fastest in the world and is also built for the DOE. I'm guessing that Roadrunner is used exclusively by Los Alamos and is not available for open science while Intrepid is.

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    1. Re:Does not compute by hlimethe3rd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, Roadrunner uses the Cell chip for the heavy lifting, not the AMD chips:
      http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080618-game-and-pc-hardware-combo-tops-supercomputer-list.html

  7. The actual list by Hyppy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Top500 has the actual list. Would have been nice to have this in TFA or TFS.

  8. Inaccurate Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The title line of the summary isn't accurate - Intrepid is not the world's fastest supercomputer, just the fastest for 'open science'.

  9. Re:what? where? by rnaiguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, you'd only find "I" in RNA computing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inosine

  10. Re:Cliche by Gewalt · · Score: 3, Funny
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    gDefine: Intrepid

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  11. Key words: "For open science" by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 3, Informative

    The top500 list [top500.org] clearly show that roadrunner is #1. What's this one then? I'll let TFA answer this one:

    IBM's Blue Gene/P, known as 'Intrepid', is located at the Argonne Leadership Computing Facility and is also ranked third fastest overall. In other words I don't really know why this is news. I don't think anything has changed about its position recently (other than Roadrunner becoming #1 a few weeks back).
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  12. Re:what? where? by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Funny

    This raises another question: how much porn can fit into one DNA molecule?
    And should we store it in female DNA, just to be on the safe side?

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  13. Booooring by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I liked (back in the Old Days) when supercomputer rankings where based on linear, single processor performance. Now it's just how much money can you afford to put a lot of processors in a single place. That was a real test of engineering. By the current standards, Google (probably) has the largest supercomputer in the world.

    Unfortunately, single core performance seems to have hit the wall.

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    1. Re:Booooring by Salamander · · Score: 4, Informative

      That was a real test of engineering. By the current standards, Google (probably) has the largest supercomputer in the world.

      Sorry, but no. As big as one of Google's several data centers might be, it can't touch one of these guys for computational power, memory or communications bandwidth, and it's darn near useless for the kind of computing that needs strong floating point (including double precision) everywhere. In fact, I'd say that Google's systems are targeted to an even narrower problem domain than Roadrunner or Intrepid or Ranger. It's good at what it does, and what it does is very important commercially, but that doesn't earn it a space on this list.

      More generally, the "real tests of engineering" are still there. What has changed is that the scaling is now horizontal instead of vertical, and the burden for making whole systems has shifted more to the customer. It used to be that vendors were charged with making CPUs and shared-memory systems that ran fast, and delivering the result as a finished product. Beowulf and Red Storm and others changed all that. People stopped making monolithic systems because they became so expensive that it was infeasible to build them on the same scales already being reached by clusters (or "massively parallel systems" if you prefer). Now the vendors are charged with making fast building blocks and non-shared-memory interconnects, and customers take more responsibility for assembling the parts into finished systems. That's actually more difficult overall. You think building a thousand-node (let alone 100K-node) cluster is easy? Try it, noob. Besides the technical challenge of putting together the pieces without creating bottlenecks, there's the logistical problem of multiple-vendor compatibility (or lack thereof), and then how do you program it to do what you need? It turns out that the programming models and tools that make it possible to write and debug programs that run on systems this large run almost as well on a decently engineered cluster as they would on a UMA machine - for a tiny fraction of the cost.

      Economics is part of engineering, and if you don't understand or don't accept that then you're no engineer. A system too expensive to build or maintain is not a solution, and the engineer who remains tied to it has failed. It's cost and time to solution that matter, not the speed of individual components. Single-core performance was always destined to hit a wall, we've known that since the early RISC days, and using lots of processors has been the real engineering challenge for two decades now.

      Disclosure: I work for SiCortex, which makes machines of this type (although they're probably closer to the single-system model than just about anything they compete with). Try not to reverse cause and effect between my statements and my choice of employer.

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    2. Re:Booooring by pwizard2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      One day Google's supercomputer will wake up to consciousness and we will all be his slaves.
      ...GoogleNet becomes self aware at 2:14 AM EST, August 29. In a panic, they try to pull the plug... GoogleNet fights back.
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  14. Wroooong by dk90406 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Even in the Old Days, supercomputers had multiple processors.

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    The difference today is that almost all supercomputers use commodity chips, instead of custom designed cores.

    Ohh - and the IBM one is almost a million times faster than the 20 years old '88 cray model.

  15. Re:Cliche by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Achievement aside, isn't the name a cliche?

    Intrepid can refer to:
    • Chevrolet Intrepid, the International Motor Sports Association GT Championship car, which raced from 1991 to 1993
    • William Stephenson, the Canadian World War II spymaster whose code name was Intrepid
    • Dodge Intrepid, the automobile
    • Intrepid Games, a satellite company of the computer game developer Lionhead Studios, now disbanded
    • The Lunar module of the 1969 Apollo 12 lunar landing mission
    • Several real and fictional ships named USS Intrepid
      • USS Intrepid (1798), was an armed ketch captured as a prize by the US Navy on 23 December 1803 and later exploded in the harbor of Tripoli 4 September 1804
      • USS Intrepid (1874), was an experimental steam torpedo ram commissioned 31 July 1874 and sold 9 May 1892
      • USS Intrepid (1904), was a training and receiving ship launched 8 October 1904 and sold 20 December 1921
      • USS Intrepid (CV-11), was an aircraft carrier launched 26 April 1943 and decommissioned 15 March 1974. Intrepid opened as a museum in New York City during August 1982 and is designated as a National Historic Landmark
      • The fictional Star Trek Starfleet includes a line of Intrepid-class starships
        • USS Bellerophon (NCC-74705) Transports Vice Admiral William Ross, Dr. Julian Bashir and Section 31 operative Luther Sloan from Deep Space Nine to Romulus in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges".
        • USS Voyager (NCC-74656)
    • Several ships named HMS Intrepid
      • The first Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line captured from the French in 1747.
      • The second Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line built in 1770.
      • The sixth Intrepid was an Apollo class cruiser which was sunk as a blockship in the Zeebrugge raid.
      • The seventh Intrepid, was an I class destroyer launched in 1936, that served in World War II and was sunk by air attack in 1943.
      • The eighth Intrepid (L11), launched 1964, was a landing platform dock that served in the Falklands War.
    • An American Civil War military balloon aircraft named Intrepid (balloon aircraft)
    • Union of Border Worlds ship BWS Intrepid in Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom
    • US-22 America's Cup Intrepid (yacht)
    • The Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum in Manhattan
    • Intrepid Ibex, the codename for the 8.10 (October 2008) in-development release of the Ubuntu Linux operating system
    • Intrepid Travel, Australia based small group adventure company.
    • Intrepid Kart, an Italian kart chassis manufacturer
    I guess they could have called it the "dauntless", but I'm not sure why anyone would give a supercomputer either name. A ship, sure, but you would think they would use a name that was a synonym for "speedy" for a supercomputer, not "fearless".
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  16. Only partially true by Nursie · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's made of tri-blade clusters, the opteron to do IO and various other mundane things, and then two Cell PowerX 8 (I think I have that right) blades to do the heavy lifting.

  17. real measure by flaming-opus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, the real measure of fastest computer has a lot to do with what software you want to run on it. In the example of the top500 list, linpack scales almost perfectly as you add processor cores, and makes very limited demands of network speed, memory bandwidth, or single-processor performance. Other codes really can't scale past 16 processors, so these massive processor jumbles don't amount to a hill of beans.

    Most codes are somewhere between. As the machine gets larger, the more effort has to be put in designing the software to actually use all the hardware.

  18. Beowulf Cluster of PS3s by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The supercomputer has a peak performance of 557 teraflops and achieved a speed of 450.3 teraflops on the Linpack application


    The PS3's RSX video chip from nVidia does 1.8TFLOPS on specialized graphics instructions. If you're rendering, you get close to that performance. The PS3's CPU, the Cell, gets theoretical 204GFLOPS on its more general purpose (than the RSX) onchip DSP-type SPEs, and some more on its onchip 3.4GHz PPC. A higher end Cell with 8 (instead of 7 - less one for "chip utilities" - in the PS3's Cell) delivers about 100GFLOPS on Linpack 4096x4096. Overall a PS3 has about 2TFLOPS, so 278 PS3s have a theoretical peak equal to this supercomputer. But they'd cost only $11,200. YMMV.
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  19. Re:what? where? by Henriok · · Score: 4, Informative

    The L in Blue Gene/L stands for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the site for the first installment.
    The P in Blue Gene/P stands for "Petaflops", the target performace
    The Q in Blue Gene/Q is probably just the letter after P
    The C in Blue Gene/C stands for "cellular computing", now renamed Cyclops64.

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  20. Petaflops by Henriok · · Score: 2, Informative

    ..or more correctly: 1 Petalops. Can't leave the trailing "s" out, it stands for "second". "Floating point operations per" doesn't mean much.

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  21. The summary is wrong - both Intel and AMD together by Tweenk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not Intel chips that have 74.8% share, it's x86 chips. Those are produced by both AMD and Intel. In fact, there are 7 systems with x86 hardware in the top 10, and the 4 faster ones use AMD Opterons (Crays are also Opterons) while the 3 slower use Xeons.

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