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Safari "Carpet Bomb" Attack Still a Risk

SecureThroughObscure writes "Just a short time after Apple's recent acknowledgment of and patch for the Safari Carpet Bomb 'blended' IE flaw, Microsoft researcher Billy Rios shows that Safari is still useful in a blended attack, this time with Firefox 2/3. (ZDNet's Nate McFeters also spread the word.) Rios claimed that he is able to use Carpet Bomb, despite the recent patch, to steal arbitrary files from victims who also have Firefox 2/3 installed. Both Rios and McFeters pointed out that Apple, which took some heat for not originally patching, actually did a good job of addressing the issue, as the code execution angle was not originally understood (the details came out later). Rios is withholding details of the new attack vector until Apple has had time to patch or respond to this issue."

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  1. Re:News Flash: Windows is still a risk. by willyhill · · Score: 3, Informative
    Having been accused of being a sock puppet

    Assuming for a second you are not, it's very telling that your reply is exactly 2 minutes after twitter's post. More importantly, what exactly is the point of your reply? "Good on you"? More likely you are simply replying to your own post to see if you can bring attention to it, which is a game you've been playing for a while now.

    being blown out with malicious moderation

    I don't see anything malicious about this, you are being moderated negatively because you deserve it. It makes no difference how much you claim you are being "unfairly" targeted by misrepresenting and exaggerating what other people say about you.

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  2. Re:Is the headline a bit sensational? by tehniobium · · Score: 5, Informative

    LenE has misunderstood it. The bug is a joint venture from firefox and safari, but firefox alone is not vulnerable to this. RTFA

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  3. Re:Is the headline a bit sensational? by tehniobium · · Score: 3, Informative
    From TFA:

    I've discovered a way to use the Safari's carpet bomb in conjunction with Firefox to steal user files from the local file system.
    Notice the phrase "in conjunction" - that means you need to exploit the carpet bombing bug in safari...thereby uncovering a security problem in firefox that allows you to "steal" files.
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  4. Re:Maybe I'm missing something? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Informative

    It wouldn't be the first time I got the wrong end of the stick, but Rios blog seems to suggest that he has discovered a way to use the original "Carpet Bomb" issue with Firefox to steal user data.

    Yup, so if you can get a file onto the desktop, you can steal data from people with Firefox installed... in some unspecified way. At least that is how I read it.

    So what are Apple supposed to be patching or responding to?

    I don't see that Apple is supposed to be responding to anything at this point. I don't think his blog implied that they were.

  5. Re:News Flash: Windows is still a risk. by masterzora · · Score: 4, Informative

    Twitter, I have a reasonable request for you: please stop the sockpuppetry and, more importantly, please stop the trolling.

    You seem to take every chance you get to hijack a thread and turn it into Microsoft or Windows bashing, even when it's not the issue at hand. This doesn't help anybody. It especially doesn't help your cause of advocating Linux, and I don't know why you think it does. As a Linux user and advocate (Debian, lenny, if you must know), I wish you would stop. There are far more useful and intelligent ways to spread Linux.

    You also use your sockpuppets to try to lend legitimacy to your posts. This definitely doesn't help your cause at all. This pretty much only serves to disrupt slashdot and cause people to turn against you. Everything all of your sockpuppets say could just as easily be said by a single person. The more legitimate posts could definitely be said by a single person, and you might actually get modded up once in a while.

    Your habit of accusing everyone who disagrees with you an idiot or a paid troll doesn't help either. The former makes you appear to be an arrogant asshole, as it implies that your opinion is correct, period, and no other opinion is at all legitimate. The latter makes you appear paranoid. This definitely doesn't help you.

    So, I have one reasonable solution for you, and I highly suggest you take it: make one more new account. Stop using the twitter account and all of the sock puppets. Never mention twitter or the sock puppets with the new account. Pretty much, ignore your entire slashdot history. Stop hijacking threads into Microsoft bashing. Stop calling Microsoft "M$". I can't really instruct you to change your writing style, so it's entirely likely that people will catch on that it's you again.

    As long as you follow my advice in whole, they most likely won't call you on it. Most people here are reasonable, and they'll be happy to live and let live. Hell, if you follow my advice in full and people insist on stalking you, I will personally do my best to stop them. If that includes ruining their karma, so be it (I get 15 mod points at a rate of about once per week, so it wouldn't be particularly hard), but I'd rather not go that route.

    Please, just take this advice, and we can make Slashdot a better place for everybody.

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  6. Re:Is the headline a bit sensational? by IrrepressibleMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative
    From the summary:

    Rios is withholding details of the new attack vector until Apple has had time to patch or respond to this issue. From the article:

    Mozilla is working on the issue and they've got a responsive team, so I'm sure we'll see a fix soon.
    Telling people to RTFA doesn't really help. The Firefox issue that Mozilla is working on CAN be exploited with the now patched Safari "Carpet Bomb" bug.

    But that doesn't mean you NEED to use Safari to exploit the Firefox bug. Presumably you can use any method to download a rogue file to the users desktop.

    Sometimes you need to do more than RTFA. We're just trying to understand the issue.

    Clearly SecureThroughObscure does not. You seem to be over-simplifying as well.
  7. Re:MSFT has to fix this. Windows security issue. by IrrepressibleMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

    Angry much?

    Your summary for the article is wrong. I'd keep my head down in your position.

    Microsoft have not fixed anything. Apple fixed the Safari "Carpet Bomb" issue.

    The IE execution issue is still active. Rios is just pointing out that Firefox can also be used to exploit the Safari issue, if the current Safari patch is not deployed.

    So just to re-cap: Apple's shitty code is fixed. Microsoft and Mozilla's shitty code needs fixing.

    Posting a summary on Slashdot claiming that there is still an unfixed issue in Safari seems a bit like spreading FUD.