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Entertainment Weekly Bemoans Lack of Great Science Books

Bryan writes "A recent headline at Entertainment Weekly suggests that the '100 Best Reads' of the last 25 years do not include a single science book (not even a popular science book). In response, cosmologist Sean Carroll at Cosmic Variance has given an interesting analysis of EW's disappointing list, and Soul Physics is calling for suggestions on the Greatest Physics Books of the Last 25 Years. For all the great literature that science has produced in the last 25 years, EW's list seems to represent a major shortcoming in the field: it still isn't diffusing into popular culture." I'm not sure what Entertainment Weekly's standing to complain would come from. That aside, have science books ever in modern times been a driving force greater than ones intended as (mere) entertainment, religious instruction, etc? I'd put anything by Richard Feynman on this list, though.

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  1. I don't know about books... by xtracto · · Score: 5, Informative

    But Carl Sagan documentaires were *a must* when I was a kid.

    Oh, and Isaac Asimov's non-SF books are great too (the book about Physics and the one about Maths are great).

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    1. Re:I don't know about books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" was, I think, a bestseller and was very good too.

    2. Re:I don't know about books... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" was, I think, a bestseller and was very good too.

      IIRC, that was the book of which it was said, "bought by millions of people, read by thousands, understood by hundreds".

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    3. Re:I don't know about books... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hofstadter's Goedel, Escher, Bach was a great favorite. Don't know how many people made it past the predicate calculus but though.

      Tough read past that point but you can make it if you mind your P's and Q's.

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    4. Re:I don't know about books... by syousef · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you enjoyed Cosmos, you really should read:
      Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark" (1996)
      Carl Sagan "Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space" (1994)

      Biographies on famous scientists are always interesting too. There are plenty to choose from. I've read about the lives of Sagan, Feynman, Newton and Einstein. Very entertaining and a wonderful insight into their work as well as their characters (and their character flaws! Did you know the rumour is that Einstein would try to seduce women by letting his robe fall open....oops)

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  2. In related news by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    In related news, Cosmo whines about the lack of great intellectual thinkers.

  3. Ah, Feynman by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    What many people don't know is that in addition to being a great bongo player, Richard Feynman was also quite an accomplished physicist.

    It's true!

    1. Re:Ah, Feynman by SputnikPanic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Feynman was a character, wasn't he? "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman" doesn't really fall into the category of a science book per se, but it was a great read. Safecracking at Los Alamos as a practical joke? Priceless.

  4. Science Superheroes by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "EW's list seems to represent a major shortcoming in the field: it still isn't diffusing into popular culture."

    A professor once gave me a book called The Existential Pleasures of Engineering (http://www.amazon.com/Existential-Pleasures-Engineering-Thomas-Dunne/dp/0312141041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214425954&sr=8-1), which began with a discussion of engineers as romantic, heroic figures to the people of the late 19th century. This is still true to some extent in some places like France. Right now in the US we're in an anti-intellectual upswing, but that doesn't mean we won't have another golden age of cultural interest in science.

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  5. re by JohnVanVliet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    any and ALL books by Carl Sagan, A.C. Clark (non-fiction), A.Asimov (non-fiction) and a MUST READ Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark"

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    1. Re:re by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd add anything and everything from Feynman. Even his biographical writings are full of information.

      Also, I'm surprised to be the first to point out "The Road to Reality" by Roger Penrose. There's nothing new in the book really, but he's the first to put real mathematics in a book targeted towards a general audience. If want a deeper understanding than you can get from A Brief History of Time, but you're not prepared to read a graduate physics text, The Road to Reality is for you.

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  6. Check the demo. by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the twits and twats that read Entertainment Weekly simply aren't the same people that would read anything by Kaku or Sagan or Dawkins or anything else that would make them use that three pound enigma in their skulls.

    I, for example, don't know any of the current videos on MTV or BET. I'm just not in that demographic.

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  7. THE CULPRIT: Science as Entertainment by Illbay · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I was a kid, and education seemed to be focused more on what was important rather than being "thick with thin things," science was considered "cool," to put it simply.


    Everyone was interested in it. The Space Race was still ongoing, magazines like Popular Science proliferated, and we Cub Scout and Boy Scout kids worked hard on our radio and electricity or bridge-building experiments. We all wanted to be scientists when we grew up.

    Now, everyone wants to be "in entertainment." Even the most well-known "scientists" are really CELEBRITIES more than anything else; they're famous for being famous. Instead of the staid, sober "Mr. Wizard," you have "Bill Nye the Science Guy" from about a decade ago, or the new Sid The Science Kid. It's all about fun and flash and, well, "celebrity," entertainment.

    We used to be "entertained" by the IDEAS behind what we were learning. We had imagination enough to extrapolate ideas like "hey, if I can make this model rocket fly up to 500 feet, maybe one day I can make one that goes the the Moon or Mars!"

    Now, it's all about what someone else is doing, for our entertainment, on TV. Don't need "hands-on," we can just watch someone else do "Science" that really just looks like an entertaining video game.

    Perhaps if we could get the kids back to doing REAL science - after all, when you're eight years old the same experiments that the scientists of three hundred years ago were performing for the first time are certainly NEWS to you! - instead of just seeking to entertain them, they might start to take it seriously.

    And that would be reflected in what we are reading and talking about as well.

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  8. Headline needs re-stating: by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Entertainment Weekly too shallow to pay attention to science, blames scientific community"

  9. GÃdel, Escher, Bach by NJVil · · Score: 4, Informative

    GÃdel, Escher, Bach has enough science in it (particularly cognition and neurology) to qualify as a "science book" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

    Definitely a must-read for anyone interested in metacognition.

  10. A Short History of Nearly Everything by cetialphav · · Score: 4, Informative

    I loved A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. It is more of a history of science book. If you want to know something like how it is that we know the age of the earth and all the prior theories and how they were concocted then this is the kind of book for you. It is a very entertaining read as he often takes side tracks into the personalities behind the discoveries.

  11. Well, what qualifies as 'great read'? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If their demographic is twenty- and thirty-something people who want to read about movie stars and their lives, which is what Entertainment Weekly publishes (they gave me a free subscription, which now clogs my recycle bin, unread) they're pretty unlikely to enjoy books that aren't about movie stars.

    Bill Bryson's "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" is a fabulous read. One or two chapters each on astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, you name it. There's a reason it was a bestseller: it is accessible to people who don't know an integral from an interval.

    There are scads of excelent science books out there: Sagan, Asimov, Zukav, Hofstatder. But if you want to read about Mel B's nose job, you're probably not going to rate them highly.

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  12. Re:Good books? by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who needs books? Most scientists read wikipedia.

    REAL scientists know wikipedia is unreliable. That's why they use the Uncyclopedia.

    Scientific Way of Doing Things
    Developed at the precise moment everyone thought science was just a passing fad, the Scientific Way of Doing Things formalized the approach scientists would take to remove knowledge from human minds, allowing the field to flourish and fully separate itself from its mystic beginnings. In the words of metascience expert John "Don't quote me on this" Smith, "The Scientific Way of Doing Things is based on the ancient divination ritual of Guess and Check. Thanks to the innovations of the past century, we've been able to remove the 'Check' phase."

    The Scientific Way of Doing Things is strictly adhered to by all respectable scientists and involves 6 steps:

    1. Find a piece of information you dislike. In our example, we will use the statement "1+1=2"
    2. Form a statement which will take its place ("1+1=Dolemite")
    3. Email this statement to everyone you know. Include the subject line "FWD: Something u didn't know!!! I no i didn't!"
    4. Publish an article on your Myspace.
    5. Brush your teeth. A fresh smile adds a layer of believability.
    6. ?????
    7. Profit.
    Another place scientists go is Bob the Angry Flower. Here's another. And another. Oh look, here's one for you!
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  13. What abolut Richard Dawkins? by richieb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's written a bunch of books that should be on the list: "Selfish Gene", "The Blind Watchmaker", "Ancestor's Tale" and last but not least "The God Delusion".

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  14. No science? Heck, there's almost no non-fiction by CharlesEGrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    EW's list is almost entirely light fiction. Except for a few memoirs, there aren't any non-fiction books, let alone science books. I've enjoyed several of the books on the list, but it might be better titled "100 classic beach books".

    I'm not sure if the EW article changed since the Slashdot article was posted, but it doesn't look like EW made any remark about the lack o f science books. I think that was just the submitter's editorial comment.