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NASA Tests Hypersonic Blackswift

dijkstra writes "Blackswift was previously rumored to be a super secret hypersonic scramjet-based aircraft co-named HTV-3X, essentially a 21st century version of the SR-71. Today NASA has unveiled the real Blackswift (video link), which uses pulse detonation engines (PDEs). A PDE is essentially a modern version of the old V-1 buzz bomb engine. This engine requires significantly fewer moving parts and achieves much higher efficiency than a turbofan, and is technically able to go hypersonic without any kind of 'dual-stage' engine."

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  1. Re:Air Force != NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually it's neither NASA, nor the Air Force developing this. It's a DARPA program and the Skunk Works is the primary contractor. The contract doesn't officially begin until September of this year. The footage shown in the video is also not real--artists conceptions at best. Furthermore, the vehicle doesn't employ pulsed detonation engines for hypersonic flight. The so-called NASA analyst in the video just saw a request for money in the 2009 budget, stole some artist conception used for market assist, and tried to put the pieces together--poorly I might add.

  2. Could this be the Aurora by jonwil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could this be the Aurora, the "triangular shaped" airplane with the "donuts on a rope" contrail that various people have reported seeing over the years? (I saw something on discovery channel about it)

  3. Build your own jet by loic_2003 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The V1 flying bomb used a pulse jet engine rather than a pulse detonation engine - the difference being that a PDE burns at a supersonic rate whereas a regular PJ wouldn't be able to get to those speeds.

    Pulse jets are surprisingly easy to build, and I'm going to flagrantly link to my own build log of my engine being built with videos of it running/imploding here.
    Videos are all here.

    Cheers.

  4. Re:Awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Islam was the pinnacle of science and technology (9-14th centuries) until the Ash'ari movement became popular.

    The Asharites questioned the value of evidence and scientific method, because they believed that the deep properties of nature were (and should stay) beyond the realm of human comprehension. Very much like your "God fearing" Midwestern Christians.

    Sadly, i fear that the irony of the situation would be lost on these people, even if it were explained in very simple concepts.

  5. Re:Slick reporting by somersault · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I'd heard American news was bad, but I didn't realise just how bad.

    "How can a human cope with going that fast?"

    What is this, 1850? The scientist didn't explain very well that you only feel any force under acceleration admittedly, maybe he thought that when the guy said 'going fast' he meant 'accelerating fast'. But OMFG, some people obviously just don't think... don't notice that travelling at 500mph on a plane feels no different to being at a 'standstill' (ignoring the earth/galaxy's rotation), it's only the acceleration that stresses the body. Later on he was saying "Surely they need some kind of special equipment?" :/ sure, they need a hypersonic plane..

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  6. Re:Awful by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's just the thing. They ARE proud of their stupidity. They are of and cater to that segment of society that distrusts education, knowledge and science.

    You mean women aged 25-54?
    Because that's the main demographic of morning shows like America's Newsroom.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakfast_television

    Breakfast television programs normally feature regular news briefs and information reports on business and the stock market, and weather and commuter travel (traffic in North American usage)--particularly in the 'early half', when the bulk of the workforce demographic is still home. Later in the program, programming will shift to more homemaker-oriented entertainment programming, to reflect a dominantly female demographic.

    Personally, I'd say it's somewhat insulting how the programming turns lightweight and airy once the menfolk have gone off to work, but that seems to be what the morning viewers are interested in, even accounting for their political/religious/philosophical bent.

    So while it must feel nice to rant about Fox and the "segment of society that distrusts education, knowledge and science" which watches them, what you just saw is pretty much par for the course during the 9:00-10:59 AM time slot.

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  7. Re:I feel dirty by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bill Hemmer is probably one of the dumbest they've got too. Not all of them are quite so bad, but he is really a bubble headed empty suited talking head.

    I watch Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. I also watch BBC news and read from various outlets. NONE of them are without a bias, but generally if you use diverse sources you can get a better picture.

    If I happen to have Fox on when Hemmer starts yapping, I change the channel. He is one of the most annoying talking heads on ANY network.

  8. sekrit planes! by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really do wonder what they're dicking around with out there. The two bits of evidence I heard of supporting the idea of a fancy post-SR-71 wonderplane were the donuts-on-a-rope contrails (which the link says can be produced by conventional aircraft under the right conditions) and linear earthquakes picked up on seismographs that do not follow any existing fault line that seemingly originate in the atmosphere. I've seen that "fact" mentioned before but have no idea how accurate it is.

    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Aurora#Contrail

    I have no proof one way or the other, I just think it would be surprising for the government to retire something as valuable as the Blackbird without having an even better replacement in the works. Then again, using logic to explain government decisions is often a losing proposition.

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  9. I'm glad to finally find out what that is by n9hmg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At least this propulsion system has been flying since at least 2005 (I don't remember the season). It sort of sounds like a piston engine, but leaves a contrail of "puffs" and appears to be very fast.
    I heard what I thought was a strange-sounding small plane. Found the contrail, and the head growing far ahead of where the sound was coming from, and I couldn't see the contrail source. Maybe 20 seconds from hearing the sound from the north to seeing the head of the contrail disappear to the south. It was flying down the Front Range of the Rockies. I was just north of Gunbarrel, Colorado.

    I googled around and found conspiracy nut sites talking about "Aurora", which fit my observations well. Since then, I've just been waiting for it to finally be revealed. I guess the research has gone on far enough to start production.

  10. Re:Slick reporting by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In fairness, humans DO have a problem with high speeds, but it's biological, not physical. A person's reaction time has a lower limit, and it is quite possible to exceed that limit and cause problems with a person's control of a vehicle regardless of gee forces. If this were not the case, then all it would take to be a race car driver would be an extra capacity bladder.

    That being said, I'm pretty sure the anchor meant "wouldn't they be crushed?" Given that the main viewers of morning news programs are soccer moms killing time after their spawn have gone off to what passes for education in this country, I'm sure tat was their interpretation as well. After all, minivans are DANGEROUS when you go fast - that's why you have car seats and a cell phone. For emergencies.

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  11. Re:I feel dirty by ruiner13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    George Carlin said "think of how dumb the average person is. Now remember that half of all people are dumber than that."

    apologies if I've butchered it a bit, but damn if it isn't spot on.

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