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Casting Doubt On the Hawkeye Ball-Calling System

Human judgment by referees is increasingly being supplemented (and sometimes overridden) by computerized observation systems. nuke-alwin writes "It is obvious that any model is only as accurate as the data in it, and technologies such as Hawkeye can never remove all doubt about the position of a ball. Wimbledon appears to accept the Hawkeye prediction as absolute, but researchers at Cardiff University will soon publish a paper disputing the accuracy of the system."

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  1. The only solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And ultra-accurate GPS like system that tracks the position of balls in nanosecond detail. They can call it Your Object Universal Remote Movement Observance Mechanism, or YOUR MOM for short.

  2. Why not, it works for shopping carts by davidwr · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you leave the store parking lot, one of the wheels locks.

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    1. Re:Why not, it works for shopping carts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      So if one of the players tries to steal a tennis ball, they won't get very far?

    2. Re:Why not, it works for shopping carts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      So if one of the players tries to steal a tennis ball, they won't get very far?

      Don't worry, tennis is probably the only sport not full of blacks. No one will be stealing anything for a while.

    3. Re:Why not, it works for shopping carts by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfortunately, for my local supermarket, "leaving the store parking lot" is defined as entering the store.

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    4. Re:Why not, it works for shopping carts by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's compatibility for legacy (analog) shopping carts with the one wheel stuck sideways.

  3. Re:Other applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    We will be able to determine once and for all whether or not they just grabbed my ass.

    You're a guy reading slashdot by yourself on a saturday night. It doesn't take any special technology to know the answer to that question.

  4. Re:Why not use... LASERS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just put high-powered lasers firing down the lines. If the ball is melted slag, it was out.

  5. Re:Call the ball Maverick by Drathos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Army brat, myself, but my first thought on reading the headline was along similar lines.

    I couldn't for the life of me think of a reason why a Hawkeye would need a system to call the ball when every other pilot in the Navy has to do it with the ol' Mk. 1 Eyeball.

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  6. Re:Why not use... LASERS! by janrinok · · Score: 3, Funny

    They have already experimented with this idea, but had problems keeping the sharks under control.

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  7. Re:Other applications? by InfoHighwayRoadkill · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, some people also want to use Hawkeye for some decisions in cricket, the sport that first used it. However the margin of error is far greater (approximately +- 2 inches) in cricket as the cameras have to be a lot further away due to the size of the pitch.

    Also Hawkeye finds it hard to pick up swinging, seaming and spinning balls. Basically anything that deviates off its theoretical trajectory either in the air or off the playing surface. Both of which are vital in the LBW decisions where the TV companies and doubtless the Hawkeye people would want to see it used.

    Obviously cricket is a far more useful game than tennis so does this answer your question?

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  8. Re:Why not use... by Don_dumb · · Score: 3, Funny
    At Wimbledon you could have chalk for the lines and if you were unsure if the ball hit the line one of the competitors could point out that

    "the chalk flew up"

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  9. Re:It doesn't have to be perfect by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

    This assumes there is another method, such as post-analysis of videotape, that can find almost all uncorrected errors or at least give some good indication of the uncorrected error rate.

    Another method would be to use Radar instead of Hawkeye. Probably faster and more efficient as well.
    (obscure reference).

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  10. Re:Why not use... by Keychain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah i hear they invented something like this : every time the ball touches the grounds it leaves a visible mark. i think they call it Complex Layer Against Yelling, but i doubt Wimbledon and its tradition are ready to take the plunge

  11. Re:It doesn't have to be perfect by frdmfghtr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Another method would be to use Radar instead of Hawkeye. Probably faster and more efficient as well.
    (obscure reference).

    In the event of a tie between the two systems, perhaps a Honeycut system to break the tie.

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  12. O RLY? by davidwr · · Score: 4, Funny

    You Pierce me with your wit! It Burns! When you finally drag out your Winchester and kill me, you'll have to bury me in a field fit for a Potter because I can't afford anything better.

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  13. You cannot be serious! by csoto · · Score: 2, Funny

    That ball was on the line!

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