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Fresh Air For Windows?

jmcbain writes "The NY Times has an opinion piece on how the next Windows could be designed (even through Microsoft has already laid plans for Windows 7). The author suggests 'A monolithic operating system like Windows perpetuates an obsolete design. We don't need to load up our machines with bloated layers we won't use.' He also brings up the example of Apple breaking ties with its legacy OS when OS X was built. Can Windows move forward with a completely new, fast, and secure OS and still keep legacy application support?"

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  1. Short answer: no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can Windows move forward with a completely new, fast, and secure OS and still keep legacy application support?

    Based on past performance: No.

    This has been another edition of Short Answers to Stupid Quesitons.

    1. Re:Short answer: no by stas1s · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can Windows move forward with a completely new, fast, and secure OS and still keep legacy application support?

      Based on past performance: No.

      This has been another edition of Short Answers to Stupid Quesitons.

      Took the words right out of my mouth.

    2. Re:Short answer: no by v1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least the windows API has been stable for a LONG time.

      so has Latin

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    3. Re:Short answer: no by postbigbang · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh yeah... remember the 'Ring Zero' contentiousness, it was incredible red herring. I remember the paperless office, and as Adam Osborne once said, it'll happen when the paperless bathroom does.

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    4. Re:Short answer: no by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Compared to NetBeans, Eclipse is a formula one car.

      But to be fair, compared to NetBeans, a dead snail is a formula one race car.

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    5. Re:Short answer: no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And that is why all real programmers use vim. /me ducks.

  2. Existing legacy support. Wait, what? by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember Vista? Supporting legacy apps is already something MS has no interest in, apparently.

  3. Windows done right from the ground up by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    WinCE. Pity about the name, though.

  4. Re:Time to Get Rid of The Gates Borg Icon by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

    I vote for a chair breaking a Window :D

    No, I'm serious. Get a picture from the Microsoft Headquarters, and from a building, add a chair breaking a window and falling to the floor. Cartoonize it, and you're done! :)

  5. Re:frist pawst by Drinking+Bleach · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would argue that the New York Times is better qualified to write an OS than Microsoft is...

  6. Sure they can! by ThorGod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just switch to Mac and get parallels :P

    Yeah, I know, not very funny. But does every comment have to be great?

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  7. Re:Not gonna work / we already have it by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am a big fan of Windows and have several servers and workstations running the OS, but it it far from bing an operating system that "Just Works". Configuring Windows still basically requires significant registry editing work. It may Just Work in a couple of years, but at this point Mandriva is still a safer bet for the average consumer.

    I agree that Linux still has it's problems, but I don't think windows is any better in a lot of ways. I mean, it can't even scale a desktop image for the wallpaper while maintaining aspect ratio. What kind of joe sixpack OS can't do that? Do you expect people to edit their own photos? Windows simply thrives because it's what people are used to. It isn't because it is any better than the competition. Truth be told, if we were all using the actual best available product, I would say that most of us would be using Macs. And that comes from somebody who doesn't really particularly like Apple.

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  8. Re:The "7" refers to nothing in particular by nawcom · · Score: 1, Funny

    No WAYYY!!!

    I'm sorry for being so harsh, but have you been Drinking Bleach? What else would the 7 stand for? The seven deadly sins? Well.. on second thought...

  9. Re:Time to Get Rid of The Gates Borg Icon by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If anyone doesn't get the Borg reference, they don't belong here, they should be at the geek office turning in their geek card (or educating themselves, whichever they prefer).

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  10. Re:Time to Get Rid of The Gates Borg Icon by antdude · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about a dancing egg'ed Steve Ballmer who is throwing a chair? :)

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  11. Re:Yes. Here's how : by pohl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ooh, what a fun game...let me try:

    How to make a Boeing 747

    - start with a long tin can
    - put wings and engines on it
    - put some chairs in it
    - you're done

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  12. Re:Wine? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's ridiculous- WINE aims to emulate win32 perfectly, including reproducing bugs, so all windows programs run as expected.

  13. Re:Time to Get Rid of The Gates Borg Icon by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that Bill Gates is retired from Microsoft, the editors should get with the times and lose that dated, painfully unfunny logo they use for Microsoft.

    That icon is there for legacy purposes.

  14. Re:frist pawst by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would argue that the New York Times is better qualified to write an OS than Microsoft is...

    Well, if a tea company can do it...

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  15. Challenge accepted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that a challenge?
    Static
    Animated GIF

  16. Re:Adopt a model similar to Apple! by jamrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    given an infinite number of monkeys banging away on an infinite number of keyboards, one will reproduce exactly the entire works of William Shakespeare

    The rest will produce "The Wit and Wisdom of George W. Bush".

  17. Muahahahahahah! by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 2, Funny

    #1 Base Windows 7.0 on the Singularity OS project.

    #2 Work with the WINE team to get 100% of the Vista and XP API calls supported under WINE, and port WINE to Singularity OS aka Windows 7.0 for legacy support.

    #3 Profit.

    Microsoft make sure to make royalty checks made out to Orion Blastar via Paypal to my email address for this idea. :)

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  18. Re:oh come on by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny

    The extra 30GB is to hold the fine print on the new EULA.

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  19. Re:Short answer... TRUE legacy compatability... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    -with every copy of Windoze 7, you get a complete Museum of Ancient Operating Systems! Working copies of Everything -from the original CP/M clone through XP-Pro*- including the truly historic disasters MSDos4.0 and Windows ME!

    Experience living history bug-for-bug just like your grandpa did in the safety of our hypervisor environment ( when an os is corrupted just reload from the dvd )!

    Old games will run like they did 1999 so, in celebration of this Marketing Triumph, the package is PRICED at $1999!

    You may have "owned" them all before, but NOW you can BUY 'em all AGAIN!

    *no, you don't get Vista, but ?WHO CARES?)

  20. The solution: by damburger · · Score: 2, Funny

    MS should get all their developers to start contributing to Wine, then develop their next GUI as a skin for Ubuntu.

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  21. Usually, when I want fresh air... by Hymer · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I just open the windows.
    ...and now when the gates are gone we can open windows.