Who is Winning the Web Talent War

jg21 writes "Ever since Fortune wrote an article about it, mentions have been occurring hither and yon about how Google is having problems retaining employees, and the latest comes in Web 2.0 Journal, where Dare Obasanjo interestingly tracks and interprets a couple of blog entries that he says leads him to hypothesize that "Google's big problem is that the company hasn't realized that it isn't a startup anymore." Of course Obasanjo works for Microsoft; it will be interesting to see if an equally prominent Googler posts a counter-theory."

Comments

Re:glassdoor.com

[Shippy]

...it became apparent that microsoft is like a government job with tons of bureaucracy I currently work at Microsoft and previously I worked at a Dept. of Energy nuclear laboratory. Microsoft is nothing like a government job. The amounts of bureaucracy don't even compare. Here I have my computer set up the way I want, I don't have to punch a timecard every day, I can be open with my opinions to my boss and my team, I get as long of a lunch I want, I wear what I want to work, etc. etc. Microsoft has a lot of process (which we need -- and are trying -- to improve), but I wouldn't equate that to the "red tape" type of bureaucracy that a government organization has. The two aren't even close in terms of bureaucracy. Please don't make that comparison.

Re:Declare yourself the winner

[Actually, I do RTFA]

(i.e. the 2000 US presidential election, where Bush just "declared" himself the victor and became president, despite actually losing the vote

He won the election. You can complain about the Supreme Court ruling that led him to win the election. You can complain about voter disenfrancisment in Flordia that put it into the Supreme Court's hand. You can complain about the electoral college overruling the popular vote. But his declaration was only made (and not subsequently retracted) after the Supreme Court had handed him victory.

Re:glassdoor.com

[geekoid]

Bullshit.

I have worked for MS as a consultant, and for government agencies. The BS at MS is outstandingly surreal. Them management bickering, people driving feature based on ego, and not on any form of reason. The outright lies to superiors who wanted to hear lies, gah.
MS's process doesn't need to improve, it needs to change completly.

Meanwhile, I don't ahve any of those problems with the government agency I work at. I come in on my schedule, and the software I have written has saved taxpayers millions of dollars.
If you say something people don't want to hear enough times at MS, you will be canned.