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France Seeks To Push 3-Strikes Law Across Europe

quanticle writes "As you may recall, France previously threatened to cut off broadband access for file sharers. However, after lobbying by the public, the legislation failed in the National Assembly. Now, the government of Nicolas Sarkozy is trying to revive the the measure by pushing it as an amendment to the pan-European Telecoms Package. This amendment has the potential to impose 3-strikes across Europe, not just in France."

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  1. Re:so we can hate the french again? by azgard · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you would hate just Sarkozy, it should be quite enough. Most French don't like him either (and no, not just because of filesharing).

  2. Re:so we can hate the french again? by discord5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you would hate just Sarkozy, it should be quite enough. Most French don't like him either (and no, not just because of filesharing).

    Oh trust me, the rest of Europe isn't too keen on him either

  3. Well, this is why France is not the United States. by Ryan1984 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lobbying from the PUBLIC seems to have an effect there.

  4. For fuck's sake by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are politicians so retarded?

    You are there to represent the people and your country. If you find yourself having to subvert the will of your public, your constitution, your own justice system etc., then take that as a big fucking clue that YOU ARE WRONG and the best way for you to help is to STFU.

    1. Re:For fuck's sake by Lafeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      In France, the money for presidential campaigns comes from taxes, is limited, and of the same amount for every candidate. But if you got less than 5% of votes, you have to give back this money to the government (this can be painful).

  5. Re:so we can hate the french again? by jessica_alba · · Score: 5, Funny

    that was a press thing, do you really believe we americans would add an extra syllable to our fries, we actually prefer to communicate in grunts as we stuff our faces.

  6. Wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The french law project which establishes an independant authority with power to ban users from the Internet (by cutting the Internet access) after three strikes has not failed to pass in the National Assembly : IT STILL HASN'T BEEN EXAMINED THERE !

    It is scheduled to be examined soon by the Senate first and then eventually by the National Assembly. You can read it there in french : http://www.senat.fr/leg/pjl07-405.html

    What is true is that right now the French ISP association (including every french ISP), the web services association (including Google, Microsoft, Yahoo! and such), the commission in charge of regulating telecommunications, the commission in charge of the defense of privacy and several others have all said they were against this law.

    Besides, even though I can imagine Nicolas Sarkozy being pleased if there were european legislation copying his ideas, I don't see any particular lobbying from his part in the European Parliament. Just look at the amendments and who wrote them (in the IMCO, ITRE or LIBE committee).

    http://www.laquadrature.net/files/amendements-compromis_ITRE-IMCO_7juil/

    And I'm not even speaking of the usual fierce independance of MEP toward national governments. They're much nicer with regular lobbying groups, in this case the music and movie industries.

  7. Re:so we can hate the french again? by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most French don't like him either (and no, not just because of filesharing).

    As a brit living in France for the past 12 years or so, this is one of the most annoying traits of the French vox populi. They forget very, very quickly that most of the French actually voted for him. His politics since he's been in power aren't that different from what he announced, and certainly not that different from his opinions in previous government positions. Short memory, and quick to criticise, the French - they did pretty much the same thing when Jacques Chirac got a landslide victory when most of them couldn't be bothered to vote and so Le Pen got to the second round.

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  8. Shamed of being French right now by fgaliegue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because I am.

    Curiously, some French politicians are brilliant, but they're not part of the French government.

    A French "European deputy" (for lack of a better name) has opposed this three-strike legislation, arguing (rightly so imho) that "an industry that is not able to make do with new consumer habits [the Internet]" shouldn't impose its rules to the government. The French government hasn't listened.

    Michel Rocard is famous for opposing software patents. The French government hasn't listened.

    French automobile club leaders, the least of which is not the president of the ACO (Automobile Club de l'Ouest, supervising the 24 hours of Le Mans) said that the pollution tax is a mistake, because one already exists and that's the TIPP (Taxe Intérieure sur les Produits Pétroliers, Internal Tax on Petrol-derived Goods, for lack of a batter name) that one pays for each centilitre of gasoline/Diesel in the tank, and that there's no reason than a guy driving only 3000 miles a year in his Ferrari should pay more than one driving ten times that in his Diesel Renault Logan. The French government doesn't listen.

    Just, where has common sense gone?

  9. Re:Why do Politicians actually care? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're a bunch of bureaucratic, cheese crazed socialists and that's not the sort of place I want to live in.

    To anyone who's had their financial life destroyed by medical bills here in the US, I bet it sounds pretty good, actually.

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