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Working Towards an Eco-Friendly Fireworks Display

phobos13013 writes "Here's an article just in time for 4th of July fireworks shows! The ACS's Chemical and Engineering News provides a fairly technical discussion about the hazardous chemicals in modern fireworks displays. Perchlorate is currently the oxidizer of choice in fireworks, but it is also known to be a thyroid blocker. Since perchlorates are water-soluble anions, they dissolve into groundwater quickly. A study performed last summer over a lake in Ada, Oklahoma showed that less than a day after a fireworks display, the lake's chlorate levels jumped by a factor of 1,000. It took weeks for the levels to drop back down to their baseline. On the other hand, heavy metals are used to produce the pretty colors typically associated with the best fireworks. The trend is to start using nitrogen-based oxidizing fireworks; they produce less smoke, which means a smaller amount of colorizing agents can be used in displays."

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  1. Really? by NuclearError · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just in time? I just finished burning all of my fireworks. Maybe in time for next year...

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    1. Re:Really? by crossmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was thinking that it wasn't "just in time" but instead a moment of opportunity because the rest of the year no one would care.

  2. Fireworks drive away evil spirits by RevWaldo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fireworks drive away evil spirits, so, you know, really, the more poisonous the better.

  3. *pout* by Perseid · · Score: 4, Funny

    But if they can only set off green fireworks that'll make for a pretty boring show.

    1. Re:*pout* by the_other_one · · Score: 4, Funny

      Several hundred acres of burning rain forest would be pretty exciting.

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  4. PETA won't be satisfied by kunwon1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They want to get rid of fireworks completely because they scare dogs.

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    1. Re:PETA won't be satisfied by DeadChobi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only reason that activist is bothered by it is because she doesn't like fireworks. She had no problems with vacuuming, even though that's another loud noise that her dog doesn't like.

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  5. For better safety don't eat the fireworks by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Jeez: perchlorate causes thyroid problems.... Well don't eat the firework and don't inhale the gases.

    How about **watching** the fireworks instead? Yeah I know that's an outlandish idea, but try it some time... you see all these pretty patterns!

    Compared to all the tailpipe emissions of people driving to the firework display, the chemicals used on the lawns they are sitting on, the peroxide the "blonds" all used to bleach their hair etc etc, the chemicals in the actual fireworks are insignificant.

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    1. Re:For better safety don't eat the fireworks by turtledawn · · Score: 4, Informative

      TFineA addresses this issue: the company they profile currently makes most of their sales to Vegas shows, professional wrestling events, and rock concerts, where you do in fact have people in a confined space breathing the fumes and exposed to particulates night after night after night. The other big market is the military, for signal flares and training aids. Again, fairly regular exposure.

      In all, some interesting chemistry.

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    2. Re:For better safety don't eat the fireworks by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jeez: perchlorate causes thyroid problems.... Well don't eat the firework and don't inhale the gases.

      How about **watching** the fireworks instead

      Fine - I'll watch them, not without remembering that there are many places in the world where people manufacture fireworks with their bare hands, and are in direct contact with the aforementioned toxic materials. Thank you for your kind interest.

  6. Re:Biodegradable bullets is next by damnbunni · · Score: 3, Informative

    Erm, this is already the case for shotgun shells. Lead poisoning in waterfowl led to the banning of lead-based shotgun pellets.

  7. Re:PETA vs Gun Lobby by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In fact hunters force their dogs to go with them when they do fire off those loud noise making things.

    One of my Labrador Retrievers, who is trained as a "gun dog", goes ballistic when he hears fireworks go off. He thinks they are shotguns which means that somebody is out hunting which means he should be doing the same.

    He gets very upset when he finds out that this isn't the case. It just depends on how the dog is raised. Operant conditioning and all that.

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  8. How about some perspective? by camperdave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A once a year, thousand times spike in a trace amount chemical, and it dissipates within a month? Let's get a little perspective? How many plastic water bottles and cigarette butts find their way into the same lake, and how long does it take them to dissipate? How much waste comes out of the nearest McDonald's location in a single day? From the nearest coal fired power plant? There are bigger problems to deal with than a dubious annual spike in a trace chemical.

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    1. Re:How about some perspective? by phobos13013 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You create a false dichotomy between dealing with this problem and dealing with the others. Fact is, we don't deal with any of the problems to any significant extent. I say we tackle all these problems simultaneously why choose one then the other, etc. And to boot, this article suggests a practical option that exists now, which is switching the way we produce fireworks today!

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    2. Re:How about some perspective? by konohitowa · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think this illustrates the GPs point. Since typical indoor Cl2 levels tend to be in the PPT range and occupational hazard levels are capped by OSHA at 1 PPM, a 1000 time increase would still trend toward putting you within an "acceptable" limit for long term exposure (1PPM is roughly the exposure you get from going for a swim in a chlorinated pool).

      Now, if I had to put up with a 1000-fold increase in whining from my kids for a month, that would be another matter altogether.

  9. Re:I wonder... by capnkr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live aboard a boat in America, and watched them shot off over water from my dock tonight. It's neat, the reflections...

    I'm glad that some folks think of things like in TFA, but at the same time - some things should just be left pretty much as they are. Though the levels in that lake may have risen to 1000 times normal (and one of the sampling sites was next to and between the "Ignition site"), they were back to normal in 20-80 days:

    After the fireworks displays, perchlorate concentrations decreased toward the background level within 20 to 80 days, with the rate of attenuation correlating to surface water temperature. Adsorption tests indicate that sediments underlying the water column have limited (~100 nmol/g) capacity to remove perchlorate via chemical adsorption. Microcosms showed comparatively rapid intrinsic perchlorate degradation in the absence of nitrate consistent with the observed disappearance of perchlorate from the study site. This suggests that at sites with appropriate biogeochemical conditions, natural attenuation may be an important factor affecting the fate of perchlorate following fireworks displays.

    Some things are worth a little danger, and thus also a little caution, or life wouldn't be so much fun...

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  10. Re:Wonder NO more! by chromatic · · Score: 3, Funny

    In fact, most places strongly prefer to shoot fireworks off over water - because there is no chance of catching the water on fire.

    Not Cleveland, then?