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Installing Ubuntu On an OLPC XO

Matt Lincoln Russell writes "Installing Ubuntu Netbook Remix on the OLPC XO is not for the faint of heart, but Drew Beckett has got the process down. This setup is pretty slow on the XO, but the good news is that Netbook Remix is a work in progress, and can be expected to get better."

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  1. So the only question is... by clarkn0va · · Score: 5, Funny
    Will these children in developing countries have access to an AMD64 machine with Gentoo in order to be able to follow these instructions exactly?

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    1. Re:So the only question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would they want to? Sugar is more than adequate as an educational UI and has great collaboration abilities and sits on top of a Fedora port.

    2. Re:So the only question is... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

      My name is Mike Abacha, I am the son of former Nigerian President Sana Abacha. I will send you $1M (ONE MILLION) US dollars if you send me your AMD64 machine with Gentoo.

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    3. Re:So the only question is... by Anpheus · · Score: 4, Funny

      This guy is totally legit, I sent him my PC last week and... *clicks refresh on UPS site a few more times* Ahah! He just got the package.

      Any moment now the escrow service he recommended will wire me the funds.

  2. Nothing to see here move along please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing new here.
    I have ubuntu with xcfe running on an XO for quite a while. Dual boot off of a SDHC.

    teapot is the one to thank for this.

  3. Ubuntu on XO by Alex+Belits · · Score: 5, Informative

    When Ubuntu Hardy was being released in April, I have posted installation instructions for it on XO. This is still probably the best way to install a "mainstream" Linux distribution on that laptop -- XO has rather unusual screen pixels layout with 1200x900 "visible" resolution, so Xubuntu desktop with a GTK theme made to accommodate XO's unusual screen behavior is better suited for it than a desktop made for plain low resolution and mostly touchscreen input that XO does not have.

    I have posted videos of this version of Ubuntu in action on Youtube, and photos of the installation procedure (still with old GTK theme) on my Livejorunal.

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  4. Re:How do hackers get these? by Daniel+Weis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hackers have money. The children do not.

  5. Re:How do hackers get these? by clarkn0va · · Score: 4, Informative

    How in the world do hackers get their hands on these

    http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/index.php

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  6. Re:How do hackers get these? by ya+really · · Score: 2, Informative

    How in the world do hackers get their hands on these while the children they're intended for don't?

    There was a promotion when OLPC came out that allowed you to purchase one. In doing so, another OLPC was sent to a child as well.

    The OLPC project had stated that a consumer version of the XO laptop is not planned.[8] However, the project established in 2007 the laptopgiving.org website for outright donations and for a "Give 1 Get 1" offer valid (but only to the United States, its territories, and Canadian addresses) from November 12, 2007 until December 31, 2007.[9] wikipedia.org

    You can also find them on ebay It doesnt take a hacker to find them, just someone willing to use Google.

  7. Apparently Uruguay really loves the OLPC by ya+really · · Score: 4, Informative

    I guess this is a real item, though it seems a bit strange OLPC Postage Stamp

  8. Re:How do hackers get these? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You mean this article?

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_24/b4088048125608_page_2.htm

    The leaders of OLPC believe the laptops must be much more than electronic substitutes for textbooks if they are to profoundly effect learning. The group, an offshoot of MIT's Media Lab, which Negroponte launched 23 years ago, has based its educational philosophy on the theories of Seymour Papert, a Media Lab professor who pioneered the use of computers in elementary education in 1967. Papert, now retired, developed a theory called Constructionism, which posits that young children learn best by doing rather than by being lectured to. So to create a tool that could deliver more than rote lessons and e-books, OLPC designed the machine and its software to enable collaboration, exploration, and experimentation. "We're hoping that these countries won't just make up ground but they'll jump into a new educational environment," says David Cavallo, OLPC's chief education architect.

    CULTURAL IMPERIALISM?

    While this philosophy is essential to the mission of OLPC, it's also a source of tension. Current educational leaders in Peru embrace Constructionism, but most countries base their education systems on the idea that teachers pass their knowledge to receptive students. That was a problem for OLPC in China as well as India. India's education department, for instance, calls the idea of giving each child a laptop "pedagogically suspect," and, when asked about it recently, Education Secretary Arun Kumar Rath barked: "Our primary-school children need reading and writing habits, not expensive laptops."

    What's misinformed about it? It's skeptical coverage rather than the uncritical puff pieces you'd get in Wired or a blog but I don't think that's a bad thing.

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  9. But, but..! by Korbeau · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..when will the one-iPhone-per-middle-class-white-man campaign start?! I can't bear the view of those still not having one :(

    Actually, I'm jealous, I'd really like to have an OLPC =)

    1. Re:But, but..! by wellingj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well if it you want a cell phone that is analogous to the OLPC, then then you want the Neo FreeRunner from Openmoko, not the iPhone.

  10. Re:Who really gives a flying fsck? by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    troll? no seriously who does give a flying fsck its been done before aswell

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  11. It *IS* new by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have ubuntu with xcfe running on an XO for quite a while.

    You are dualbooting *STOCK* ubuntu of your card.

    What TFA's author is trying to do is to test Ubuntu *Netbook Remix* which is a distro variation specially developed for sub notebooks.

    He wasn't just trying to get ubuntu up (as already done by countless other howtos) he was willing to test the new flavour specially geared for this kind of machine.

    Verdict : kidda works, not snappy enough, but will probably improve in the future

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    1. Re:It *IS* new by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You realize that the netbook remix at this point consists of like five packages added onto Ubuntu in a PPA?

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  12. too late? by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not trying to bash olpc -- I liked it enough to donate one. But I wonder whether the olpc is simply coming to market too late, and at too high a price, to be relevant. This article is an example of how fuzzy the boundary is between xo+sugar and a standard linux distro running on commodity hardware such as a eeepc or a standard laptop or desktop machine. There are basically three reasons I can see why olpc can be relevant:

    1. It's so cheap that it can be given away to lots of kids in developing countries.
    2. It's rugged and portable, can run on a generator, and has a combination of price and features (like wireless) that you don't see in ordinary laptops.
    3. There's something really cool and innovative about sugar that makes it better suited for use by kids than a standard desktop environment.

    I've never tried sugar, so I can't say anything for sure about #3, but I'm pretty skeptical. My own kids use gnome, and it works fine for them. The fuzzy boundary demonstrated by the article makes me doubt whether sugar by itself is all that relevant.

    Re #2, I'm not convinced that it's really all that important for these kids to have this particular combination of features. Is portability really that critical? How much does it matter if the machine stays in the kid's home, or at school? Is the wireless really that useful in real life, in the environments where xo's are getting used? These features seem to be tied to a particular educational philosophy and imagined model of use, but it's not clear to me whether that's really happening. One of the big killer apps for olpc was supposed to be distribution of free electronic textbooks, and that is something I know something about (see my sig); basically the free electronic textbooks that exist today are disproportionately slanted toward esoteric graduate-level books on things like quantum field theory, with less for college freshmen, and essentially nothing for K-12.

    And then there's #1, price. So far they've only got the xo's price down to $200, and $200 is not all that competitive against commodity hardware at this point. I'm going to have to compare with retail options here in the developed world (US), since that's what I have experience with. You can get a gPC from walmart for $200. I recently walked in to a Salvation Army thrift shop and bought a perfectly fine used desktop system for $89 -- and that wasn't a fluke, because there were two other machines on the shelf at the same price point that looked just fine. Memory upgrades for used machines are ridiculously cheap these days, ~$13 (including shipping) on ebay for 512 MB. So for the same price as the xo, I could spend $89 for a used desktop, $13 for a memory upgrade, $8 for a mouse and keyboard (typical sale price at Fry's), and maybe $70 for a cheap LCD (again, not an unusual sale price at Fry's). Now I'm not saying that this particular method of assembling a cheap, used desktop system is appropriate for getting a machine into the hands of a kid in Cambodia, but I think it does show that commodity hardware is getting so insanely cheap so fast that there's a real possibility that olpc will simply become irrelevant because it's overtaken by events.