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KDE 4.1 Beta 2 – Two Steps Forward, One Step Back?

jammag writes "Linux pundit Bruce Byfield takes a look at the latest KDE beta and finds it wanting: 'Very likely, KDE users will have to wait for another release or two beyond 4.1 before the new version of KDE matches the features of earlier ones, especially in customization.' He notes that the second beta is still prone to unexplained crashes, and goes so far as to say, 'Everyone agrees now that KDE 4.0 was a mistake.' I'm not too sure about that — really, 'everyone?'"

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  1. KDE .. vs ... anything else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Well, I'm sure I'll have the unpopular opinion, but KDE is a mistake. Period.
     
    stick with ... I dunno ... gnome... xfce ... or emacs ;)

  2. Open Source Developers vs Commercial Developers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    How is it possible that open source developers have been working on KDE for a decade now and they still can't come up with something remotely polished as Win2k was years ago?

    And something that just isn't in the same universe as OS X?

    Why do the UI elements and widgets look like they are straight out of the damn stone age? Putting Aqua side by side with KDE makes it look like KDE is some sort of college computer graphics programmer art.

    Why the hell can't the most basic UI and font spacing be handled. Isn't there anything like the automated snap to grid UI layout tools like Interface Builder?

    You could sit down with a Mac or Windows machine and a Linux box running KDE and come up with thousands of stupid little,a nd boring to fix, problems in KDE that could be addressed and fixed TODAY?

    1. Re:Open Source Developers vs Commercial Developers by agrippa_cash · · Score: 0, Troll

      You sound a lot like the guy complaining about how long it tool Macs to copy a 17 Mb file. What made you change your mind?

  3. Re:Still very disappointed with KDE 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    quit being such a whiny fuckn douche, you douchebag.

    they didn't take anything out you fuckn retard.

    they just haven't had time to port everything over.

    get over your self.

    idiot.

  4. Re:That's the stupidest comment I've ever seen by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yes. You are exactly correct; that is what it was.

    And, man, most Slashdot people are dumb as shit.

  5. Re:Not quite what I said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If the shoe fits. KDE4 up to this point is god awful. Plasmoids? WHAT. THE. FUCK. They've been compared elsewhere to cumstains floating about on your desktop.

    People want things that are A) stable B) work. They don't give two shits about "innovative desktops".

    And, he isn't trolling if what he says is true.

    To disagree is not to troll, but most trolls do disagree :P

    Besides, who cares how it's going. It'll get done when it gets done. People complain too much, especially for something that they aren't paying a dime for.

    If you want the stuff to be done faster/better:

    A) Help code/debug/design/etc for the project
    B) $$$ PAY THEM MONEY $$$

    There are only limited developer resources out there, and every software developer/engineer I've ever met sucks at UI design. Maybe they can hire a graphic artist and a UI designer if they actually got paid. Pitiful $1.00 donations through PayPal won't cut it either.

    Get back to me when you have their project lined up with capital funding.

    How was that for flamebait and trolling? :P

    And people wonder why I stick to Windows...oi vey.

  6. Ignorance. Bruce needs to work harder. by inTheLoo · · Score: -1, Troll

    Why listen to a "pundit" when you can go to the source where the issues are dealt with. Yes, eventually you get to something useful like this to sort the FUD out. Basically, KDE 4.0 is not "ready". Though it is more flexible and has all of the old features and more, not all of those features have been exposed yet. This is not a big deal because reasonable distributions still ship with the still excellent KDE 3.5 applications. Bruce needs to do more research before he spouts off like that.

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  7. Re:Perfect? by atraintocry · · Score: 0, Troll

    kdebeta

  8. Re:Too bad. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 0, Troll

    I think you're severely misinformed as to what A Linux is. It's not Gnome nor is it KDE.

    Wow, really? I've never heard that before ;-)

    I tell you what Linux isn't. It's not a platform. Windows is - it's easy to build a binary application to run on "Windows" and it will work on Vista, XP and Windows 2000. Very few people do that for Linux, they provide source code and let people port it to Red Hat or Ubuntu or KUbuntu or Gentoo, i.e. half a dozen distributions running half a dozen Window managers.

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  9. Re:Ignorance. Bruce needs to work harder. by inTheLoo · · Score: -1, Troll

    What a crock of loony bullshit and flamebait. I've pointed to KDE documents that explain the problems in KDE 4.0 and remind people that 3.5 is still the default in reasonable distributions. KDE is free software and it's developers are happy to talk about their code's shortfalls as well as its advantages. The source code is available to everone to judge for themselves so developer comments are usually accurate. Do you have anything useful to say about that or are you too blinded by hatred to have a useful conversation?

    Except for his ignorance and position (fuck pulpit as you trolls call it) this has nothing to do with Byfield. It has even less to do with Twitter and other people you hate or are paid to smear.

    By the way, thanks for raising the visibility of my post. Who needs sock puppets when there are idiots like you around? You should not let your personal hatred get in the way of your job like that. You might be paid to harass twitter and everyone you think is twitter but your primary job is to bury him. The usual AC or -1 account replies would have served the purpose of harassment without raising the visibility of an obviously insightful post. You could just be demonstrating your ability to moderate, but it's more likely that you are stupid and self defeating in that uniquely M$ way.

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  10. Re:Everyone? Why not? by arth1 · · Score: 0, Troll

    The thing though is, I can take KDE 3 and use it till the year 5436656563577 or beyond if I feel like and still patch it.

    No, you can't. The last time I checked, there were several year-2038 bugs still present in the KDE codebase, especially in Konqueror.