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Best DNS Naming Scheme For Small/Medium Businesses?

Bandman writes "My business just purchased a couple dozen blades, and with our existing servers, this brings us to around 60 machines. We're geographically dispersed, and most of the users who need to connect to servers are not technical (if that matters). We used to use theme-based naming schemes, but we've been migrating to a more utilitarian system. I think it's clearer and more concise, but I've had some feedback from users who didn't find it understandable. What do you use for your internal DNS schemes? How big is your network, and what do you recommend for future expansion? Does it matter to your users at all?"

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  1. I use porn stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The guys at work seem to enjoy their time with Jenna quite a bit.

    1. Re:I use porn stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How much of a load can Jenna handle?

    2. Re:I use porn stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Three. Anyone can get in on port 80, 22 if she knows you, and 443 requires a little bit of negotiation.

    3. Re:I use porn stars by glitch23 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Three. Anyone can get in on port 80, 22 if she knows you, and 443 requires a little bit of negotiation.

      I would think port 79 would be a gimme for Jenna.

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    4. Re:I use porn stars by this+great+guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      443 requires a little bit of negotiation.

      IOW more than a simple handshake.

    5. Re:I use porn stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just to warn you, a Jenna server will go down on you often, while still giving you plenty of uptime.

    6. Re:I use porn stars by xchino · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just a warning, this is not an ideal naming scheme as we found out the hard way after we had a customer call and demand to know why we had a server named after him. (John Holmes)

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    7. Re:I use porn stars by totallydude · · Score: 2, Funny

      Everyone knows port 69 gives the best results with port 99 if you are trying to backdoor.

  2. Short and Concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Server0000
    Server0001
    Server0002
    Server0003
    ...
    Server9998
    Server9999

    1. Re:Short and Concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      what goes after Server0003?

    2. Re:Short and Concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...

    3. Re:Short and Concise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      profit

    4. Re:Short and Concise by Idbar · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must agree with your GP that that's certainly short and concise.

      On the other hand, It seems to be a genuine innovative idea using Morse for server names.

  3. Two words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Body parts. Easy to remember.

    "Where is that file?"
    "In the nose."

    1. Re:Two words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Which workstation was it with the virus?

      Oh yeah, vagina.

    2. Re:Two words. by Plutonite · · Score: 4, Funny

      There are enough anatomical details for the female reproductive system to provide a complete and scalable solution to this problem. Stop acting like you're new here, dammit :)

    3. Re:Two words. by ari_j · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those would be the easy-to-remember bones and muscles I had in mind.

  4. Nice short concise meaningful systematic names... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...therefore all my servers are given a hostname string equal to the Dell "Service Tag", followed by a dash, followed by the Dell "Express Service Code".

    I really love my junior admins, and whoever the poor schmuck is that will take my place as senior sysadmin once I'm gone from here.

  5. Re:Simpson Characters by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didn't you get the memo?
    SideShowMel replaced SideShowBob a while ago.

  6. We use a series of numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What we do is use a series of numbers separated by periods to designate a hierarchy. For example, the servers in the company all share the first number, say 192. Then, each department has its own number, say 168, giving us 192.168. Then, each location in the department has a number, such as 204, taking us to 192.168.204. Then we give each server a unique number, like 10, bringing us up to 192.168.204.10. It's very easy for me to recognize where a machine is by that address. We try to keep the numbers under 255 to make them easier to remember, and it's really not many more digits that a long distance code and phone number.

  7. interesting idea by s0litaire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make a Hash MD5 code from the location address of the server + it's Serial number. Use that for the server name. Or use a dictionary. start from a pre-determined random page and use the 3rd word on that page.then every server takes the 3rd word from the next page and so on... or start from 0001 and work up..

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    1. Re:interesting idea by Jesus_666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about using an SHA-1 hash of an incrementing counter? The first box is 356a192b7913b04c54574d18c28d46e6395428ab.company.internal, the second one is da4b9237bacccdf19c0760cab7aec4a8359010b0.company.internal etc. The mapping between counter values and machines is stored in an Excel spreadsheet, printed out and stored in the server room.

      That way you get a unique naming scheme that's both logical, understandable (you can convert the host name into its counter value through a simple rainbow table) and reasonably safe from hash collisions.

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  8. Cheeses by grizdog · · Score: 3, Funny

    The University of Wisconsin CS Dept. used cheeses. Never seemed to have a problem with running out, although they named two machines kraft-slices and velveeta, and the lawyers moved in and made them change.

    Incidentally, included among the cheeses were puff, whiz, and head (the latter is also a popular Wisconsin food product, so it's all good).

  9. You have a problem here... by ZeroPly · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you can't name more superhero characters than you have servers then either...

    (a) We're going to take your official geek card away.

    or (b) You should already know more about naming conventions than anyone reading this.

    Seriously, there shouldn't be a problem with a mix and match scheme. For instance, name a typical server ohio-27-002.mycompany.com but use DNS to give the important ones a second name as in wolverine.mycompany.com

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  10. Re:Simpson Characters by JustOK · · Score: 2, Funny

    Must be an enterprise system. They're always a bit slow to upgrade.

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  11. Re:Simpson Characters by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But its locale is set to de-DE! A system that speaks German can't be a bad system.

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  12. Screw DNS by chill · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they can't remember IPs, they shouldn't be allowed on your network.

    Power Users must be able to identify machines by MAC as well as IP.

    Admins must be able to do both - in hex, decimal, binary AND octal.

    Octet delimiters are for pussies.

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  13. Southpark Character by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We had a test server which started off as something bland but since it was a test server people kept crashing it often. It became affectionately known as "Kenny". Now everyone just says "Who Killed Kenny!" when it dies a horrible death.

  14. Re:No acroynms, use short names/words by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah, that's a fun system. I use Starcraft hostnames in my house:

    Old Desktop: Goliath
    Server: Overmind
    Router: Nexus
    Wii: Pylon
    New Desktop: Tassadar

    I was thinking if I ever got a small, low power 24/7 mini box, I'd call it Zergling.

    I know the tech people at RPI name internal domain names after pokemon - I get the feeling there are more of those available now than network addresses that can fit in the IPv4 space.

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  15. In Soviet Russia... by santix · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... servers name you?

  16. Re:Keep it simple, stupid by KevMar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Our mac solution was simple.

    We say sorry, we don't support macs.

    If they win the political battle to get a mac in (or bring in a personal mac), they still have the standard issue desktop in the office to access everything.

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  17. In the nose by wireloose · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brings new meaning to picking through your files....

  18. Dwarf Stars by jcuervo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was building servers with another guy once. I asked him "what should the naming scheme be?"

    Him: I dunno. How about... stars?
    Me, looking at a smallish server: Okay, what's a famous dwarf star?
    Him: Sneezy.

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