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Giant Snake-Shaped Generators Could Capture Wave Power

Roland Piquepaille writes "UK researchers have developed a prototype of a future giant rubber tube which could catch energy from sea waves. The device, dubbed Anaconda, uses 'long sea waves to excite bulge waves which travel along the wall of a submersed rubber tube. These are then converted into flows of water passing through a turbine to generate electricity.' So far, the experiments have been done with tubes with diameters of 0.25 and 0.5 meters. But if the experiments are successful, future full-scale Anaconda devices would be 200 meters long and 7 meters in diameter, and deployed in water depths of between 40 and 100 meters. An Anaconda would deliver an output power of 1MW (enough to power 2,000 houses). These devices would be deployed in groups of 20 or even more providing cheap electricity without harming our environment."

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  1. say that again? by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    'long sea waves to excite bulge waves which travel along the wall of a submersed rubber tube. These are then converted into flows of water passing through a turbine to generate electricity.'

    and called the anaconda?

    i don't know if this scheme will work, but hands down, that is the most sexual innuendo i've heard in an energy generation scheme in a long time

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    1. Re:say that again? by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Informative
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  2. Would someone get those... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    motherfucking snake generators on the motherfucking grid!

  3. Intercourse the penguins by John+Jorsett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These devices would be deployed in groups of 20 or even more providing cheap electricity without harming our environment."

    I think this underestimates the ability of someone, somewhere being able to find a problem with anything. Hydropower dams wild rivers. Windmills smack birds out of the air. Photovoltaics pave over entire deserts. Probably Anacondas will interfere with the lifecycle of some species or other. One day we'll realize that any energy system is going to have some ill effects and say, "Intercourse the penguins, I need to microwave my popcorn."

    1. Re:Intercourse the penguins by Repton · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Actually putting a number on the rate of bird deaths is somewhat controversial, as its fairly difficult to count them, given that it happens so infrequently."

      Clearly, we must build more wind farms so that we can gather more accurate data!

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    2. Re:Intercourse the penguins by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1700 to 4700 birds die in the windmill farm in Alameda County near the Altamont Pass. Now, that's a ridiculously vague number

      Altamont pass has over 4900 windmills. Even on the upper-end of that estimate, it's less than one per year. That's fairly "infrequent"

      Also, you're right that the estimate is "ridiculously vague". You can't draw conclusions based on data with a 50% margin of error. If you're getting that kind of error, there's something seriously wrong with your data.

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  4. Re:Sounds interesting by nfk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, if the boat captain finds himself at 40 to 100 meters depth, he has other things to worry about.

  5. Re:Better description by d'baba · · Score: 5, Informative

    But this shows a better image.

  6. Not So Funny: Threshold of Renewable Resources by reporter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In the long run, the only readily available sources of energy are renewable sources: solar energy and terrestrial energy (e.g., wind and waves). Each person consumes a minimum amount of energy to live, and the aggregate amount consumed by the entire population cannot exceed some fraction of total renewable energy. The reason for the fraction is that no conversion process (for, say, transforming solar energy into electrical energy) is 100% efficient. (A while ago, some genius in the SlashDot forums gave an explicit number for the "fraction".)

    Right now, the sky-high price for oil is useful in reminding us that there are limits to our resources. If we do not make a conscientious effort to control population growth, then nature will impose a solution on us. That solution will be poverty and likely starvation. If you doubt what I say, consider the huge amounts of energy that is needed to grow and to transport food.

    Right now, I suspect that our population is unsustainably large due to the fact that we still have plentiful supplies of non-renewable sources (e.g., oil and uranium). So, our energy consumption = (1) usuable energy from non-renewable sources + (2) usuable energy from renewable sources. After #1 is depleted by roughly 2100 (?), a global world war for resources will dwarf the calamity of World War II. (By the way, we will deplete our mineral resources like copper and iron ore long before we deplete our non-renewable sources of energy.)

    Will humankind wake up to the problem of overpopulation? In the USA, political correctness prevents us from dealing with the problem. The American mantra is that (1) expanding the population is always wonderful and (2) expanding the population by immigration is the best route.

  7. Re:Not So Funny: Threshold of Renewable Resources by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    enough energy to make chemicals to launch all waste into the sun and have all the energy we'll need left over!

    Will you please stop with this "nuclear waste" blather? "Nuclear waste" is just "nuclear fuel that we're too lame to recycle yet".

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  8. Re:One possible problem by Nyckname · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamSAbwgJKk

    It doesn't sit on the sea floor.

  9. Re:Not So Funny: Threshold of Renewable Resources by smussman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the long run, the only readily available sources of energy are renewable sources: solar energy and terrestrial energy (e.g., wind and waves).

    Almost all of the energy we use comes from the sun, with nuclear and geothermal being (the) exceptions. The main difference is whether we're using the energy as the sun is producing it (wind, wave, solar) or we're using energy that's been stored from previous eons of sunlight (coal, oil). So I agree with what you're saying insofar as we shouldn't be using more energy than the sun is giving us right now, and we should strive to make that come from the current energy output rather than stored output.

    Right now, the sky-high price for oil is useful in reminding us that there are limits to our resources.

    (By the way, we will deplete our mineral resources like copper and iron ore long before we deplete our non-renewable sources of energy.)

    But I'm going to have to disagree with you here. We will never actually run out of copper or iron or oil. As the amount of these resources that is naturally occurring decreases, the price will rise to the point that: (A) It becomes cost-efficent to dig through landfills and recycle previously used resources, and (B) other materials that were previously too expensive for the application will now be cost-effective.

  10. Re:Not So Funny: Threshold of Renewable Resources by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 5, Informative

    It would take a huge investment in infrastructure to be able to "use up" nuclear material to the state where it is reasonably harmless to life. By comparison, increasing renewable energy generation can be done in a fairly incremental fashion (and can be moved & removed in a fairly incremental fashion as well).

    Also, "nuclear waste" doesn't just include the nuclear fuel. It also includes everything which comes in contact with that nuclear fuel & all of ways that it is processed (like the containers used to store/transport the fuel, the reactor walls, the control rod mechanisms, etc). Almost all that material can't be safely used once it has become contaminated, the stuff that it is contaminated with can't be easily extracted for use as fuel, and it is all still hazardous to life.

    I'm not saying that nuclear isn't theoretically a great source of energy, but you're seriously downplaying some of its disadvantages.

  11. Re:Not So Funny: Threshold of Renewable Resources by Falconhell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh I dont know, I seem to find the US population extremely dense, I mean they voted for Bush.....