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Massive, Coordinated Patch To the DNS Released

tkrabec alerts us to a CERT advisory announcing a massive, multi-vendor DNS patch released today. Early this year, researcher Dan Kaminsky discovered a basic flaw in the DNS that could allow attackers easily to compromise any name server; it also affects clients. Kaminsky has been working in secret with a large group of vendors on a coordinated patch. Eighty-one vendors are listed in the CERT advisory (DOC). Here is the executive overview (PDF) to the CERT advisory — text reproduced at the link above. There's a podcast interview with Dan Kaminsky too. His site has a DNS checker tool on the top page. "The issue is extremely serious, and all name servers should be patched as soon as possible. Updates are also being released for a variety of other platforms since this is a problem with the DNS protocol itself, not a specific implementation. The good news is this is a really strange situation where the fix does not [immediately] reveal the vulnerability and reverse engineering isn't directly possible."

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  1. not that big of a problem by simul · · Score: 5, Informative

    I used to run a DNS hosting company. Fortunately, this error only affects caching resolvers, since it is yet another example of cache poisoning. There have been (and continue to be) hundreds of cache poisoning exploits over the years. This one is fairly technical and would require significant expertise to execute in a timeframe (ie: before everyone patches up) to cause harm. I don't know about you,but if someone started flooding my servers with thousands of response regords in hopes of guessing a transaction ID, my iptables config would block them in a heartbeat.

    this is not the kind of security problem that should cause people's heart to skip a beat. your average malware worm is much worse.

    dan has written an article on a javascript attack that can compromise a home router.... that's probably far worse - in terms of real damage (ie: bot creation, personal data stolen)

    in sum... run yum update.... then don't worry about it.

    1. Re:not that big of a problem by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      an has written an article on a javascript attack that can compromise a home router.... that's probably far worse - in terms of real damage (ie: bot creation, personal data stolen)

      And that's precisely why the first thing I do on a home router is to disable the cashing nameserver and install DJBDNS on a Linux box instead. :)

    2. Re:not that big of a problem by Effugas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      [This is Dan Kaminsky]

      No, this attack is much worse than my home router exploits (which, admittedly, aren't getting fixed anytime soon). While it is indeed nice to have compromised firmware living somewhere on your LAN, being able to generically attack everyone using a given ISP is a much more valuable proposition -- especially when I don't need to worry about the pesky paranoid people changing their router passwords, or even using a router I haven't built a script to attack.

      I'm being very circumspect about implications. August 6th will be an interesting day.

      It's funny you mention the iptables auto-block. There's been a known attack here for years -- spoof the root servers attacking you, and...yeah.

      That being said, we agree on the ultimate fix...run yum update, and be done.

  2. DJBDNS not affected. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that DJBDNS (and derivatives) are not affected, since it uses randmoized source ports for DNS resolving.

  3. Re:Oh cool! by brunascle · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://www.doxpara.com/

    Your name server, at 65.24.7.3, appears vulnerable to DNS Cache Poisoning.

    In fact, we arent even www.doxpara.com, we just hacked your name server. That's how we know.

  4. Reverse Engineering? by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the summary-

    The good news is this is a really strange situation where the fix does not immediate reveal the vulnerability and reverse engineering isn't directly possible

    His DNS tester is submitting a DNS check that it knows will be relayed, and then monitoring if the upstream check (it is intentionally doing lookups against a DNS server it controls) consistently uses the same source port. If it does, hypothetically an attacker could send "response" packets in concert with the original request, poisoning the cache.

    I would guess that the patch makes the DNS server randomize the nonce when relaying DNS requests.

    I know nothing about this, but that's my super-l33t-hacker assumption from looking at it for 10 seconds.

  5. Finally...! by JackassJedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm (sort of) a native German speaker, in which "DNA" is abbreviated "DNS" ("DesoxyribonukleinsÃure" with "sÃure" being "acid").
    Needless to say, my first impression of the headline was way more futuristic than what is there.

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    1. Re:Finally...! by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 5, Funny

      "sÃure"

      Welcome to the fail that is "no unicode on slashdot". Enjoy your stay.

  6. Re:More independent verification needed by dvice_null · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Microsoft's own DNS implementation is also affected

    Did anyone else notice that today is Tuesday?

  7. Nature of the attack by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's reasonably obvious from the CERT advisory how an attack would work. The CERT advisory tells us that the vulnerable systems are ones where the 16-bit DNS transaction ID and the 16-bit port number for a transaction are not randomly chosen. The CERT advisory also tells us that the attacker must be able to spoof IP addresses, that is, they must not be behind some ISP with egress filtering. CERT also tells us that it's a DNS poisoning attack.

    So it looks like a form of this attack documented in 2003 at "Cache Poisoning using DNS Transaction ID Prediction". Back in 2003, it took a large number of packets to make this attack work, and even then it wasn't reliable. But there may be a more cost-effective attack strategy if you know how the DNS server assigns transaction numbers and ports.

    The fundamental problem comes from 1) the fact that source IP addresses can be forged, and 2) the DNS transaction ID, at 16 bits, is far too short to be considered a useful random key. Any key with security implications should be at least 64 bits and be generated by a crypto-grade random number generator.

  8. Debian advisories.. glibc stub resolver effected! by molo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Debian released 3 advisories:

    bind9:
    http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1603

    bind8:
    http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1604

    glibc:
    http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1605

    Bind9 now contains a port randomization, which can require firewall rule changes.

    Bind8 is now considered deprecated and the advisory recommends upgrading to bind9. There is no patch for bind8.

    The glibc stub resolver is also vulnerable, and there is no patch yet. The recommended workaround is to install bind9 as a caching resolver and point /etc/resolv.conf at localhost.

    In short, this is a big mess.

    -molo

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  9. Re:Let the DJBing begin! by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Uhm...

    DJB-ware is now in _public_ _domain_. That's even more liberal than the BSD license.

    So, update your /etc/hate file with newer facts...

  10. Re:More independent verification needed by es330td · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is good to have a sysadmin who can write programs in binary

    I'd like to meet one of these sysadmins. I've written system stuff in C and other stuff in Pascal, C++ and Perl over the years but the guy that can write direct to binary must really know his stuff. Just think, his keyboard only needs two keys!

  11. Re:More independent verification needed by lukas84 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why the sarcasm? If you're hiring sysadmins who aren't also system-level developers, you're not hiring people who can Do The Job Right.

    People with that amount of expertise will hardly be challenged by sysadmin position. And without a challenge you'll get bored. As such, you'll never find people with such high qualifications in sysadmin position.

    A sysadmin of course needs to know his stuff, and especially a unix sysadmin should be able to read C code and get the basics (and have extensive knowledge in scripting languages).

    But i doubt that understand the gritty details how bind works (or reading a DNS packet with just a hex editor) is something that can be expected from a sysadmin.

    But i also might just be defending my lack of knowledge, so beware :)

  12. Re:Oh cool! by GeffDE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, is an IP address too much to ask?

    Article should be modded +1 Ironic because the links necessitate the use of DNS...at the very least, the DNS checker should have been a straight IP.

    WTF?

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  13. Re:More independent verification needed by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, its binary, real men solder a telegraph device to the motherboard, and just push down for 1, up for 0, Really, really fast!

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    What are we going to do tonight Brain?
  14. Re:The Death of BIND by Ethanol · · Score: 5, Informative

    How in the world did you manage to get hold of the patches, test them, and deploy a competing product on a 90,000+ zone installation in the two hours between the patch's public release and your post? That's... really fast work.

    Out of curiosity, what version of BIND were you running prior to the change, and on what OS/hardware?

    It is true--and we acknowledged in the release announcments--that the initial security patches (9.3.5-P1, 9.4.2-P1, 9.5.0-P1) cause a significant performance hit on heavily-loaded systems.

    There are further code optimizations that get performance roughly back to baseline, but we felt they were too extensive to release without putting them through a beta cycle.

    Two beta releases, with the enhanced performance code, were published at the same time as the patches: BIND 9.5.1b1 and BIND 9.4.3b2; you can grab them now (um, for values of "now" that include "very soon"; one of our 10G fiber links picked an unfortunate moment to fail).

    The remaining beta, BIND 9.3.6b1, will be released in a few days, because five releases at one time was already enough to juggle.

  15. Re:My first response is to call Bullshit by quazee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The exploit is trivial to figure out - if a caching DNS server has recursion enabled, and also sends the outgoing DNS queries to the authoritative servers over a fixed (or predictable) UDP port, you can just send forged UDP responses together with your recursive DNS query.
    The bogus response will be cached and will affect other users of the DNS server.

    The attacker also needs to also guess the transaction ID (16-bit value), but they can send multiple bogus UDP responses with different transaction IDs.
    Also, vulnerable implementations may generate transaction IDs in a predictable way, so the attacker can obtain the current state of the PRNG by generating a recursive DNS query to DNS zone under attacker's control.

    Such an attack cannot be performed from a typical home broadband connection, as most ISPs will not route packets originating from IP addresses not allocated by the ISP.
    The attacker needs to be in control over the routing/egress filtering within his AS (e.g. an enterprise-level Internet service).

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  16. Re:So give a layman explanation by deathsyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dan Kaminsky discovered a basic flaw in the DNS that could allow attackers easily to compromise any name server; it also affects clients.

    If you don't understand that, you don't need to care.

    What's funny is that the CERT advisory gives Dan Bernstein credit for the work around, which he came up with over 7 years ago.