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RIAA's SafeNet Caught In a Lie
NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "For the past 2 years, the RIAA and its attack dog SafeNet (formerly known as MediaSentry) have been trying to avoid disclosure in UMG v. Lindor by telling the judge that MediaSentry is NOT an expert, that it does not use any technical expertise to get the 'evidence', and that it does only 'what any other Kazaa user does'. We have just discovered that in administrative proceedings in Michigan, attacking it for engaging in the business of investigation without a license, MediaSentry has taken the exact opposite position, comparing itself to chemical engineers, surveyors, physicians, geologists, and other expert witnesses who rely on their technical expertise. Today we went public with some of the contradictions. Now let's hope Michigan's Department of Labor and Economic Growth finds out about it."
Absolutely SHOCKED that the RIAA was bending the truth in order to justify its actions.
Laugh until you cry?
the one good thing about the US government is that it moves slowly enough that everythng that is caught in outright lies eventually gets ground under. It just takes a very painful decade to do so.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
You rock.
Dear RIAA:
Haha. Self-pwnt.
No, it isn't lying.
It's just bending the truth all the way around.
Did Media Sentry, I'm sorry, SafeNet DDoS him, too?
Anybody want my mod points?
They gained experience from their previous ordeal, and can now claim to be "experts".
Moebius strip of truth!
FGD 135
Michigan has an economy? I thought they ran everybody off?
If you're very quiet, you might be able to hear the WOOSH leaving earth's atmosphere
... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about.
At a later trial when they once again need to be laymen, not experts, I assume they will claim to have respecced since this trial.
... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about.
NewYorkCountryLawyer: the anti-Jack Thompson
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
A bad analogy is like a grapefruit. Kind of yellow and dimply on the outside, and on the inside its kinda pink and squishy, no, wait,...this is not the story you were looking for. Check back and up one.
THe Moebius strip of truth only has one side. This is more like the Klein bottle of truth: everything fits inside, all at the same time.
Sounds to me more like lying, what with the two stances being exact opposites.
Don't be silly, when the lawyers are done fighting we'll find out it's all a big misunderstanding. Why, I'm sure a few years from now we'll all laugh about it.
May contain traces of nut.
Made from the freshest electrons.
All of the invisible hands of all the markets are conspiring to keep prices high. Either that or the Chinese kept their economy in the dark ages until they sensed that we were most vulnerable...then BAM! they start growing and use up all our oil. Wait till they see what happens when our plan to let the dollar free-fall comes to fruition...
I wonder if the statements from Michigan can be sent to Lindor's legal team?
I am "Lindor's legal team".
Ray Beckerman +5 Insightful
I thought lawyers made contradictory arguments all the time.
Here's a joke/story I heard years ago. This lawyer is in a courtroom, defending a client. The plaintiff claims the defendant borrowed a new pot and returned it in broken condition. The lawyer makes his opening statement: "There are three facts that prove my client is innocent. First, he never borrowed that pot. Second, it was already broken when he borrowed it. Third, when he returned it, it was in perfect condition."
steveha
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
In Soviet Russia, "Lindor's legal team" is you!
No good deed goes unpunished. - Avon, Blake's 7
And we all know that the cake is a lie.
They weren't lying, they were just saying a lot of things they wish were true or thought were true. Like many bloggers do as well. :)
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
... stop describing goatse... *whimpers*
Is this like the 3rd phase of matter -- all gas?
Every mans' island needs an ocean; choose your ocean carefully.
Why they oughta be horsewhipped...I mean, elected to congress.
What?
You can eat your cake and still have it, it just takes a little patience. Although the cake will look different, and it'll smell bad.
Give a man fire, and you warm him for the night. Set a man on fire, and you warm him for the rest of his life.
It's not over yet. RIAA is still alive...
Or at least "undead".
Hey! Here on Slashdot, every day is Be Pedantic Day!
But, like the RIAA's cases, it doesn't hold water.
They can, but only until someone looks inside the court and collapses the waveform.
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Maybe we should put the RIAA in a box and launch it at the sun.
Why do you want to pollute a perfectly good star? It's not as if we are in a binary system and thus have a "backup".
They want to have their cake and eat mine, too.
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
But wait, there's more! Phase 3 also involves flooding the underground and drowning all the workers.
Townsperson: But then who will operate the machinery and keep the pleasure dome running?
Dante: Phase 4: an army of robot workers to replace the slaves.
Walt and Steve-Dave: What if the robots united and rebelled against Leonardo?
Randal: Phase 5: an army of highly intelligent apes move in and quell the robot insurrection.
Townsperson: What if the apes are pacifists?
Time passes...
Dante: Phase 24: the virus, while not affecting anyone inside the dome, destroys all the chickens.
Townsperson: That may well be but then where will he get all the eggs?
Randal: Phase 39: Robot chickens.
Dante: Phase 63: The dome launches into space and nukes the Earth from orbit.
Randal: Itâ(TM)s the only way to be sure.
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IANAL too
So do I.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
I smell a sweet Half-Life 2 mod in there somewhere. Who wouldn't want to kill off hordes of undead RIAA bastards?? And maybe have an MP3 gun that blasts them with unauthorized copies of legally protected intellectual property....
"But this one goes to 11!"
To me this sounds more like the case of "Kettle vs. Pot" in which both parties were found to be black.
"But this one goes to 11!"