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RIAA's SafeNet Caught In a Lie

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "For the past 2 years, the RIAA and its attack dog SafeNet (formerly known as MediaSentry) have been trying to avoid disclosure in UMG v. Lindor by telling the judge that MediaSentry is NOT an expert, that it does not use any technical expertise to get the 'evidence', and that it does only 'what any other Kazaa user does'. We have just discovered that in administrative proceedings in Michigan, attacking it for engaging in the business of investigation without a license, MediaSentry has taken the exact opposite position, comparing itself to chemical engineers, surveyors, physicians, geologists, and other expert witnesses who rely on their technical expertise. Today we went public with some of the contradictions. Now let's hope Michigan's Department of Labor and Economic Growth finds out about it."

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  1. Really? by thrashee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Absolutely SHOCKED that the RIAA was bending the truth in order to justify its actions.

  2. Re:What a mixed day... by peragrin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Laugh until you cry?

    the one good thing about the US government is that it moves slowly enough that everythng that is caught in outright lies eventually gets ground under. It just takes a very painful decade to do so.

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  3. Dear NewYorkCountryLawyer: by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 4, Funny

    You rock.

    Dear RIAA:

    Haha. Self-pwnt.

    1. Re:Dear NewYorkCountryLawyer: by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear NewYorkCountryLawyer: You rock. Dear RIAA: Haha. Self-pwnt.

      Why thank you, The Master.

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  4. Re:Bending the truth may be light by SpiderClan · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it isn't lying.

    It's just bending the truth all the way around.

  5. NYCL's Web Site Down. by russlar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did Media Sentry, I'm sorry, SafeNet DDoS him, too?

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  6. Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They gained experience from their previous ordeal, and can now claim to be "experts".

  7. Re:Bending the truth may be light by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Moebius strip of truth!

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  8. Ding? by Kreigaffe · · Score: 4, Funny

    At a later trial when they once again need to be laymen, not experts, I assume they will claim to have respecced since this trial.

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  9. dude your rock by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    NewYorkCountryLawyer: the anti-Jack Thompson

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  10. Re:Bending the truth may be light by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Funny

    THe Moebius strip of truth only has one side. This is more like the Klein bottle of truth: everything fits inside, all at the same time.

  11. Re:Bending the truth may be light by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds to me more like lying, what with the two stances being exact opposites.

    Don't be silly, when the lawyers are done fighting we'll find out it's all a big misunderstanding. Why, I'm sure a few years from now we'll all laugh about it.

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  12. Re:Economy by EveLibertine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Michigan has an economy? I thought they ran everybody off?

    They didn't run, they drove off in impressively made foreign cars.

  13. Re:I've seen this happen before by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if the statements from Michigan can be sent to Lindor's legal team?

    I am "Lindor's legal team".

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  14. Is this really surprising? by steveha · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought lawyers made contradictory arguments all the time.

    Here's a joke/story I heard years ago. This lawyer is in a courtroom, defending a client. The plaintiff claims the defendant borrowed a new pot and returned it in broken condition. The lawyer makes his opening statement: "There are three facts that prove my client is innocent. First, he never borrowed that pot. Second, it was already broken when he borrowed it. Third, when he returned it, it was in perfect condition."

    steveha

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  15. can't resist . . . by catbertscousin · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, "Lindor's legal team" is you!

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  16. Re:Bending the truth may be light by owlman17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    And we all know that the cake is a lie.

  17. Re:Bending the truth may be light by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Funny

    They weren't lying, they were just saying a lot of things they wish were true or thought were true. Like many bloggers do as well. :)

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  18. Re:I've seen this happen before by GaryOlson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Phase 3 won't be pretty for the RIAA.

    Is this like the 3rd phase of matter -- all gas?

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  19. Caught in a lie?!! by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why they oughta be horsewhipped...I mean, elected to congress.

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  20. Re:Bending the truth may be light by FuturePastNow · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can eat your cake and still have it, it just takes a little patience. Although the cake will look different, and it'll smell bad.

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  21. Re:Bending the truth may be light by mpe · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not over yet. RIAA is still alive...

    Or at least "undead".

  22. Re:Bending the truth may be light by Keeper+Of+Keys · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey! Here on Slashdot, every day is Be Pedantic Day!

  23. Re:Bending the truth may be light by Keeper+Of+Keys · · Score: 5, Funny

    But, like the RIAA's cases, it doesn't hold water.

  24. Re:Yes, it IS lying by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They can, but only until someone looks inside the court and collapses the waveform.

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  25. Re:Yes, it IS lying by mpe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe we should put the RIAA in a box and launch it at the sun.

    Why do you want to pollute a perfectly good star? It's not as if we are in a binary system and thus have a "backup".

  26. Re:Bending the truth may be light by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They want to have their cake and eat mine, too.

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