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IPhone 2.0 Jailbroke

dch24 was one of many who noted that the iPhone 2.0 software has already been unlocked writes "If you were wondering how I was doing push email tests on iPhone OS 2.0 and Vodafone UK, this is the reason why. The code wizard commandos at the iPhone Dev Team have been working on this non-stop since the early days of beta testing. In fact, I had iPhone OS 2.0 running on my iPhone since last week. That was version 5A345, two below 5A347, but identical in functionality." Still no word on an iPhone 3G crack.

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  1. No Longer Relevant by stecker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the application development environment was locked, it made sense to play this cat-and-mouse game of jailbreaking phones to get at 3rd part apps. Now that Apple has created a rich ecosystem of free and fairly priced applications, I've lost all interest in the process. I happily scrubbed my phone and went with a clean build of 1.2.

    Of course, there are a different set of motivations behind carrier unlocking.

    1. Re:No Longer Relevant by loconet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I understand this mess correctly [correct me if I'm wrong], ITunes's App store is the only "legit" way of installing software into the device. That's one big reason why jailbreaking is still relevant IMO.

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    2. Re:No Longer Relevant by MouseR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Installer 4 can coexist with the App Store on firmware 2.0. This means you can have all the bells and whistles of free and pay-for-use apps of the App Store, PLUS all those apps Apple will refuse to put on their store.

      Because they reserve the rights to exclude any apps from their store. Weither free or not. That is quite anti-competitive.

      My 1st gen iPhone is jailbroken and unlocked. It'll remain unlocked and jailbroken weither I opt for an update.

    3. Re:No Longer Relevant by jisatsusha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about all those apps that Apple don't approve of? I doubt we'll see things like VoIP on the app store, so yes, there are some cases where it's still relevant.

    4. Re:No Longer Relevant by sensationull · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Apple strikes again, you still need to jailbreak it if you don't want to be controlled by Apples corporate opinion of what the general public is allowed to have on phones that they purchased.

      What would happen to a car company if they built a car that could only drive west. Apple can only get away with it because of the masses of image obsessed sheep that flock to its kool-aid drinking sessions.

    5. Re:No Longer Relevant by aesiamun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple doesn't set those prices. If enough people think $19 is too much for a French-English dictionary, the price will drop.

    6. Re:No Longer Relevant by Telvin_3d · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For good reason. VoIP has much higher data overhead than regular phone service. AT&T and Apple have said that there are worries about network stability if all the iPhone users suddenly start using VoIP for all their calls. Specifically in areas where the 3G service is still not great.

      Like it or not there are any number of application types that could completely thrash the phone network if they got popular. I think it is fair enough for AT&T to limit things that could cause service outages. You will not that they have no problem with you using VoIP, just as long as you do it in a way that won't fuck with their network.

    7. Re:No Longer Relevant by Selfbain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're on /. claiming we don't need to hack our devices because the powers that be are allowing us to install the apps they deem worthy... are you new here?

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    8. Re:No Longer Relevant by mosherkl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      VoIP should have minimal data overhead compared to normal internet use, it's just that the packets (albiet being very small) need to transmit at regular intervals.

      I think the biggest issue that all carriers (not just AT&T) are having with a suddent influx of VoIP users is that their 3G data networks are not yet at the maturity level of their older voice networks, so the new data networks might not have the capacity to handle all the new traffic.

    9. Re:No Longer Relevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If it's a capitalist economy, shouldn't the phone companies be competing with VoIP to provide the customers with an incentive to use regular voice lines rather than data?

      And as for higher data overhead, then why is video streaming allowed when on a cellular connection. Trust me, that uses up far more bandwidth than Skype which AFAIK was designed to work with dialup, let alone broadband connections.

      If they're that worried about capacity, then they should be expanding rather than milking customers for insane profits.

  2. Re:What Happened To The iPhone Hype? by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    stop telling lies. Apple has yet to reach their publicly stated sales goals, because the time limit is still on going. They have always stated from the beginning that they wanted 10 million units sold by the end of 2008 they had some 6-7 million sold before iphone 2 was released.

    Apple will make their sales goals with ease and plenty to spare. Apple also doesn't want to be the main cell pone provider. even 5% of the market would rival ipod sales.

    Also Iphone has had at least one bi weekly article about it since last year. hardly lowering the coverage.

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  3. Re:Am I the only one... by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...who doesn't give a shit about the iphone or any other products from apple?

    Anti-populism is cool and all, but you sort of undermined your own point when you felt it necessary to click into this submission just to make the world know that alewar (784204) doesn't care about the iPhone. Great dude.

    This is almost as insightful as the guy who told us how Apple jumped the shark because they sold out of iPhone 3Gs before he could get one.

  4. Re:Not available yet by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Good that you corrected it, but I am sure most of the macboys still want to believe your original claim.

    That aside, from those 27%, I can bet hardly 5% are Apple geeks and using this new device with some objectivity. The rest are just look-at-my-penis-i-have-an-iphone sheeple (yes, I used that word, mode me down), who, other than totting around the 'cool', 'hip', 'trendy' to help their low self-esteem, hardly use it to it's strength.

    Point is, nobody with a little bit of self-esteem would use this shiny junk for it's price and 2 yrs contract with worst telecom company out there.

  5. Price Drop? He just said 'free' by Animaether · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for software developers making a buck on their application if it's worth it (see related rant on media from a previous slashdot story).

    The question here is... If -I- were to make a *free* French-English dictionary... what are my odds of getting approved as a developer, getting my app approved in the store, and so forth and so on. Keeping in mind that this conflicts with a for-pay product also listed, and of which Apple gets a greater share (as in > $0). I'm sure Apple would allow it, but then there's the case of TomTom (google them) still not being approved for the program, while a competitor (google them also, forgot their name - they're better known in the U.S. I think) is.

    1. Re:Price Drop? He just said 'free' by NotWorkSafe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well you do have to pay Apple and buy an iPhone/iPod Touch to even develop an application, so they are getting some money out of it.

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  6. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why do you care so much about 'jailbreaking' a $600 phone from a supplier who violates the GPL and refuses to allow open development on its platform?

    1. Re:Who cares? by Bert64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Violates the GPL? Since when?
      At most, i think it just uses a few GPL libraries (webkit), the kernel, the interface, the core of the os etc are all BSD licensed or closed and owned by apple. There's nothing stopping you downloading webkit yourself.

      While i agree they should allow open development, i don't think they're violating the gpl as it stands..

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  7. Re:Not available yet by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a phone with a nice mp3 player and some other little features, using or not using it says nothing about a person.

    Absolutely. Standing in lines whole night and then remaining without service for hours for a phone with nice mp3 player does not say anything about a person.

  8. Re:Steve Jobs Dying by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The gauntness is probably a direct result of the cancer treatment. Here's a simple article explaining the procedure, and it's aftereffects.

    Though I'm not worried about Jobs passing away any time soon, I would feel better if there was "another Steve Jobs" who could replace him. Tech companies almost always suffer when their original founders leave, and Apple nearly went bankrupt without Jobs once before

    Steve isn't an engineer, or a programmer, and I can't even say I'd want to be his friend, but hell - the guy built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar from scratch. The tech industry needs a lot more Steve Jobs-type leaders, and a lot fewer company-hopping CEOs that only care about their stock portfolios.

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  9. Re:Steve Jobs Dying by LKM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even if we assume that you are right about the premise that Jobs is a "scumbag" (and we'll just have to take your word for it - most of us don't know him as well as you seem to), your logic is flawed. Why would Apple be better off without him? Just because he's a "horrible person"? That makes no sense.

  10. Re:Steve Jobs Dying by LKM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find it amusing that you keep on telling me that I'm a "fanboi" while ranting on and on about how evil Jobs is. I think I'm not the fanboy here.

    I really don't know if Jobs is evil, and even if he was, you continue to fail to explain why you think he's a bad man, or how his being evil hurt Apple. Isn't NBC back on iTunes? Even if they aren't, I fail to see how this hurts Apple, the iPod isn't losing any market share; it's just NBC which makes less money. And Apple seems to be doing just fine with AT&T.

    PPS: Fuck you.

    I see. Now that calling me a fanboy did not help you win the argument, you must resort to more heavy-handed attempts. I'm not sure why you think this helps your point; it just makes you look like the mindless fanboy.

    Have a nice day!