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The Largest Recorded Tsunami Was 50 Years Ago
An anonymous reader writes "July marks the 50th anniversary of the world's largest tsunami — a 1,720-foot-tall wave in Lituya Bay, Alaska. It was triggered by a chain reaction of events that began with a magnitude 7.7 earthquake on the Fairweather Fault, which dislodged a rock fall of 40 million cubic yards, that fell 3,000 feet and splashed into the northwest end of Lituya Bay to generate the wave. This article includes survivor accounts, maps, a satellite image, and photos taken right after the event." To be fair, eyewitness accounts put the height of the wave as it came toward their boats at perhaps 100 feet. The tsunami scoured the land of vegetation and soil to a height of 1,720 feet above sea level, however.
I live in the 21:st century, you insensitive clod!
There was a scary program on UK TV a few years back talking about the possibility of something similar happening in the canary islands that would wipe out the eastern seaboard of the US - a little research seems to suggest this is greatly overhyped however.
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states they where on 5 fathoms = 30 feet of water, the wave was 100 feet high (I'm guessing the guy means 100 feet above normal level) so that makes the wave 130 feet (40 m.) That is one fudging big wave, but its far from 1725 feet (525m.) high - its far more likely that the 130 feet of wave being pressed up the small valley will have so much force it will keep climbing up to that level.
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This is a science article, right? Use SI units, kdawson.
This is kdawson we're talking about. We should be thankful he gave us any sort of units at all.
This guy's the limit!
said the guy that wasted the first post spot with 'frosty piss'... class act indeed. Pot, kettle, black.
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There is nothing inherently superior about the metric system.
Sure there is. Ease of unit conversion and ease of communication with the REST OF THE FREAKING WORLD. We live in a global economy - we should start acting like it.
Why does dividing by 10 matter so much, anyway? Because you have 10 fingers?
Because we use a base 10 counting system for most calculations. Having a measurement system that is highly compatible with the numeral system most humans use makes sense.
Really, we should be trying to move to a system of measure that is base 2.
Really? Go ahead and tell your mother you came 1011 miles to see her - I'm sure she'll be impressed.
I think, after reading the article a bit They get that 1720 foot wave from the location directly across the water from the rock slide that stripped vegetation to an elevation of 1720 feet.
"The spur of land between Gilbert Inlet and Lituya Bay that received the full force of the wave. Trees and soil were stripped away to an elevation of 1720 feet above the surface of Lituya Bay. Photo by D.J. Miller, United States Geological Survey."
You even get a picture.
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There may have been one earlier, but the Hall of Records was mysteriously washed away 100 years ago.
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This type of tsunami is the exact same as what is predicted will ultimately wipe out most of the Eastern Seaboard. It will make Katrina and even the tsunami that hit in the Indian Ocean look like a cake walk. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/aug/10/science.spain
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The photos from the following day are impressive, but I'd like to compare it to what it looks like today: How much has been able to regrow in relatively cold climate in 50 years?
A tsunami may be only a few feet higher than average sea level as it crosses oceans, but when the mass of water piles up as it reaches shore, the runup can go hundreds of feet above sea level. If you're standing on the slope at a height of 800 feet above sea level, and the tsunami starts, which is more 'real' about the height of the tsunami -- the hundred-foot height of the wave in the open water of the bay, or that the runup is going to scour the ground clean almost a thousand feet farther up the slope than where you're standing?
I'd prefer that we used a hexadecimal system.
And how do you propose we convince every non computer geek in the world that this is a good idea? Further are you going to pay for the math classes virtually everyone will need?
Your idea fails the mom test miserably...
You go ahead and pay $4 for a liter and I'll pay $4 for a gallon, that fact alone is reason enough to stick with US measurements.
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At what point do we call something a wave instead of a really friggin huge splash?
"Grandma, I walked eleven miles to see you."
The funny thing about non base-10 number systems is that our language can't say them without spelling them out. The old joke about "There are 10 kinds of people in the world..." isn't very funny if you say it aloud or in your head: "There are two kinds of people in the world" or "There are one zero kinds of people in the world".
So I believe it's our language, not our fingers, that makes base ten feel natural. If we had grown up accustomed to counting "one two three ten eleven twelve thirteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three thirty" then base four would feel natural. The characters "2506" would look as strange as hexadecimal and be as impossible to pronounce without spelling or conversion.
By the way, isn't the term "base 10" devoid of meaning? If our system were base four, then "base 10" would mean "base four" since the characters "10" in base four mean "4" in base ten. Whatever base you use, "10" is your way of writing the value of that base.
Back to the tsunami, it's disappointing to hear that the water was 290 fathoms high only very near it's source (the landslide). That's like saying "Your mama's so fat she jumped in the Pacific and made a tsunami a billion nanometers high."
Where's the satellite picture of the scene before the earthquake?
I'm not installing a new system until time and angle measurments get upgraded to base 10.
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OK, when I saw the 1700 ft figure I suspected something was wrong. AFIK, it would take an unbelievable amount of energy to support a mountain of water that high. (Where's frink when I need it?) Even 100 ft indicates a huge amount of energy. It makes total sense if that amount of energy meeting the solidly-planted continental uprising would be re-directed in the direction of least resistance (in this case upslope) until it is dissipated.
The questions that come to mind are things like: How fast was it traveling? Over what area from the epicenter did it travel? What was the actual water level above ground as it rushed upslope? If I ws on the 5th story of a hotel in the water's path, would I have been able to safely watch? Would the hotel have be able to survive the shock if were made out of concrete? (or sticks? or straw?) How much salt was left behind? (The '64 earthquake dropped the level of Cook Inlet by about 40 feet in some places. [That would be 12.192 meters for those of you who are English-unit challenged.] This caused massive salt-water infusion that killed off vegetation for miles inland on parts of the Kenai Peninsula.) How would I model something like that?
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Sorry ... I mistook your original post saying that the US should switch to the metric system with you saying that the US should switch to the metric system.
The nautical mile makes some sense. It's one minute of arc along a meridian of the Earth.
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I've been to Lituya Bay. I've walked its shores. I managed to lose a crab pot there. I've talked with one of the survivors. Lituya Bay is a protected harbor used by fishing boats to get out of the weather. I used the harbor to protect myself and a 38' fishing boat from 105 mph winds one summer (1967). There is a very narrow passage to get into the harbor. You have to line up to lights (night) or white sticks (day) and traverse between a large sandspit and the shore. In the middle of the bay is an island. It contains ruins of an old French fur trapping venture. At the back of the bay is a glacier. When the earthquake struck a piece of the glacier broke off and entered the bay, quickly, causing a huge wave. The wave rushed away from the back of the bay, washed over the island, and washed several fishing boats over the sandspit into the Gulf of Alaska, snapping their anchor chains easily.
You can see that this was no ordinary 'tsunami.' The wave did not come from the sea, but from the shore and moved outward. take a look on Google Earth and you will see what I mean. 58*37'52" North, 137*36'03" East.
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