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"Tabletop" Fusion Researcher Committed Scientific Misconduct

Geoffrey.landis writes "A Purdue University panel investigated allegations against nuclear engineering professor Rusi Taleyarkhan, finding that he had in fact committed scientific misconduct in his work. Taleyarkhan had published papers in which he reported seeing evidence of nuclear fusion in the collapse of tiny bubbles in a liquid subjected to ultrasonic excitation — a finding that would be groundbreaking, if true, but one that apparently could not be replicated by other researchers. The allegations against Taleyarkhan were made in March of 2006. A local Indiana paper gives the full list of allegations against Taleyarkhan, and the resolution of each by the panel. The full report (PDF) is also available. Of the nine specific allegations, only two were found to comprise scientific misconduct. The committee 'could not find any other instances of scientists being able to replicate Taleyarkhan's results without Taleyarkhan having direct involvement with the experiments,' but notes that this comes 'just short of questioning whether Taleyarkhan's results were fraudulent.'" We've discussed this gentleman's work and the scrutiny it has received several times, and members of the scientific community seem to have given him the benefit of the doubt in many cases.

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  1. Fraud... by ZwJGR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Better late than never, this guy has been either bullshitting or been genuinely incompetent for years.
    When I first heard about his whole ultrasonic bubble excitation fusion experiment, I honestly thought: WTF? This was quite a while ago, and all the evidence was against him then as well.

    It is people like these who give research scientists a bad name...

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    1. Re:Fraud... by vertinox · · Score: 5, Informative

      When I first heard about his whole ultrasonic bubble excitation fusion experiment, I honestly thought: WTF?

      The bubble itself is a quite interesting phenomenon, thought it is most likley not fusion as Taleyarkhan claims.

      For those not familiar of Taleyarkhan and the issue of the bubble this is a good BBC video I saw a while back on the who topic and controversy. Either way the bubble was discovered by someone else and I personally think should be investigated for other properties other than table top fusion.

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    2. Re:Fraud... by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      i just saw that video a few days ago and was more fascinated by the ultra-sonic bubble than the prospect of cold fusion.

      Yep... but note that the ultrasonic bubble collapse thing-- "sonoluminescence"-- isn't something that Taleyarkhan discovered. It was his claim that sonoluminescence produces fusion that was noteworthy, not the sonoluminescence itself.

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  2. How disappointing. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really want to see one of these fusion processes work. It would make a radical change in our society, by removing any reason for the US government to care what happens in the middle east.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:How disappointing. by wild_quinine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I really want to see one of these fusion processes work. It would make a radical change in our society, by removing any reason for the US government to care what happens in the middle east.

      I really want to see one of these processes work, but it's massively shortsighted to care on the basis of what happens in the middle east. We're talking about the next step in world energy here, not the end of one government's petty feud with a geographical area.

    2. Re:How disappointing. by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If we didn't need oil, we wouldn't have troops in the ME. If we didn't have troops in the ME to begin with, 9/11 would never have happened.

      You're ignoring the cause of the problem, which is that we stick our noses into everyone's business.

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    3. Re:How disappointing. by emarkp · · Score: 4, Informative

      You misspoke. If the world didn't need oil, the ME wouldn't have the money and power to be a threat. 9/11 might just as well happened--bin Laden's excuse is that he didn't like US troops on the Arabian peninsula. However, he cut his teeth against us in Somalia (no oil there) and against the Soviets in Afghanistan (no oil there either).

    4. Re:How disappointing. by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be honest there's no real reason to think fusion would be cheaper than coal, and nuclear fusion isn't much different to nuclear fission in most practical regards. It would be more like an improved form of nuclear fission than a revolutionary new technology.

      Fusion (in the most viable tokamak form) does produce radioactive waste products because of all the neutron flux, but (like lots of forms of fission) the waste isn't dangerous in the long-term. I also haven't seen any real data on how much fusion would cost on a practical level.

      So I don't see why fusion should be treated as anything more than a possible improvement to fission in the future; why aren't we going for fission as the technology to free us from the Middle East in the meantime?
      That's what the US did last time there was an oil crisis, and it worked out well, but this time our reactors are much better and safer for the experience.

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    5. Re:How disappointing. by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the locations don't change the fundamental reasons for Bin Laden's hatred of the U.S: actions by U.S. in Lebanon, support of Israel, support of what he considers amoral leaders in the middle east.

      Bin Laden, unlike G W Bush, has no reason to lie about his motives regarding terror.

    6. Re:How disappointing. by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You're ignoring the cause of the problem, which is that we stick our noses into everyone's business.
      >.

      The root cause is deeper and simpler.

      Bin Ladin dreams of a pan-Islamic medieval caliphate.

      This isn't Islamic civilization in its creative prime. It is a redaction of that culture embalmed and hermetically sealed.

      He hates the West because the West has been successful - and the success of the West has never been one-dimensional. The West exports culture as effortlessly as it exports food and new technologies.

      The West changes and evolves at an extraordinary pace.

      It is no coincidence that Ben Laden sought refuge among a tribal culture that is as far removed from a man like Saladin as it is to us.

  3. looking back by smoondog · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I was in graduate school/postdoc, I wrote for the Stanford Daily a couple of times for fun as way to practice my writing skills. One of the articles I wrote was on this research. Interestingly, I interviewed Nobel winner Douglas Osheroff and he shared his thoughts with me on this research. If memory serves me, he thought it was interesting, but prematurely published.

    Interesting to look back on this in light of this finding.

  4. Because one did commit misconduct... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    you still shouldn't out the others working on similar things:

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    By 1991, 92 groups of researchers from 10 different countries had reported excess heat, tritium, neutrons or other nuclear effects.[73] Over 3,000 cold fusion papers have been published including about 1,000 in peer-reviewed journals (see indices in further reading, below). In March 1995, Dr. Edmund Storms compiled a list of 21 published papers reporting excess heat and articles have been published in peer reviewed journals such as Naturwissenschaften, European Physical Journal A, European Physical Journal C, Journal of Solid State Phenomena, Physical Review A, Journal of Electroanalytical Chemistry, Japanese Journal of Applied Physics, and Journal of Fusion Energy (see indices in further reading, below).

    The generation of excess heat has been reported by (among others):

    * Michael McKubre, director of the Energy Research Center at SRI International,
    * Giuliano Preparata (ENEA (Italy))
    * Richard A. Oriani (University of Minnesota, in December 1990),
    * Robert A. Huggins (at Stanford University in March 1990),
    * Yoshiaki Arata (Osaka University, Japan),
    * T. Mizuno (Hokkaido University, Japan),
    * T. Ohmori (Japan),

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion#Experimental_reports

    "Despite a backdrop of meager funding and career-killing derision from mainstream scientists and engineers, cold fusion is anything but a dead field of research. Presenters at the MIT event estimated that 3,000 published studies from scientists around the world have contributed to the growing canon of evidence suggesting that small but promising amounts of energy can be generated using the infamous tabletop apparatus."

    "MIT's Peter Hagelstein, on the other hand, said "cold fusion" reactions have yielded surplus energy from as far back as the initial experiments in 1989. Verification of these controversial results is not the problem -- many labs around the world have reproduced parts of the results many times. "

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/08/cold_fusion?currentPage=all#

    U.S. Navy Report Supports Cold Fusion:
    http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue44/navy.html

    ""Last March, scientists at the annual conference of the august American Physical Society heard presentations on cold fusion. Next month, the Second International Conference on Future Energy will be held in Washington, D.C. The vast majority of physicists remains skeptical, but at the Office of Naval Research, six of the nine experiments performed produced an unexplainable amount of excess heat.""

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060808/REPOSITORY/608080316&SearchID=73253345954312

    "Researchers at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have developed a tabletop accelerator that produces nuclear fusion at room temperature, providing confirmation of an earlier experiment conducted at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), while offering substantial improvements over the original design."

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/ny_team_confirms_ucla_tabletop_fusion_10017.html

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    1. Re:Because one did commit misconduct... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Despite a backdrop of meager funding and career-killing derision from mainstream scientists and engineers, cold fusion is anything but a dead field of research.

      The same can be said of creationism, but that doesn't mean it isn't totally bullshit.

      BTW, the "tabletop" fusion in the current article isn't at all the same thing as CNF. This work is based on the observation that collapsing bubbles in a fluid generate extremely high temperatures, which some people think could be used to trigger ordinary hot fusion.

  5. Re:OMG.. by langelgjm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe all the other scientists just don't understand the 'problem'.. because you don't know how something works (even with full documentation) doesn't mean it is impossible..

    You're quite right. I don't know the details of this specific case, but generally speaking, replication isn't as simple as it may seem. Even given full documentation and information, there is often an element of intangible know-how that goes along with an experiment - "tacit knowledge." I'd suggest reading the chapter on the TEA laser in H.M. Collin's Changing Order for anyone interested in learning about the difficulties involved in replication.

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  6. Scientific Fraud by Ganty · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was a TV programme on this guy a couple of years ago. No other scientists were able to duplicate his work so as part of the investigation the TV production company gathered together the finest fusion scientists they could find and they tried one last time to duplicate the experiment. Although Rusi Taleyarkhan agreed to interviews he refused point-blank to take part in the on camera experiment and (surprise surprise) there was no evidence of fusion.

    Ganty

    1. Re:Scientific Fraud by itsdapead · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There was a TV programme on this guy a couple of years ago

      NB: The following is more about the quality of the TV show than any attempt to wish away the apparent irreproducability of Taleyarkhan's results so that we can all have Mr Fusions for Xmas.

      If I believed in Taleyarkhan, that TV program certainly wouldn't have changed my mind. The scientist conducting the experiment appeared to be an outspoken critic of Taleyarkhan and we (the audience) had to accept his word that differences in equipment c.f. Taleyarkhan's experiment were inconsequential. As far as I remember, the originally stated purpose of the experiment was to check if the neutrons detected were in sync with the flashes from the bubbles (something not shown in T's results). We were told at the end that the experiment had failed, but with little explanation as to how (no flashes? no neutrons? not in sync? the first two of those would not have been "as was to be demonstrated").

      As for Taleyarkhan attending the experiment, why would he do that? If he'd participated in any way, it would have destroyed the independence of the test.

      ...which was a pity, because in an earlier show they gave the same treatment to a test of the "memory of water" theory beloved of homeopathic medicine: in that case the experiment was presented beautifully, from the careful setting up of independent, blind tests through to analysis of the results for statistical significance. One of the best science documentaries I've seen.

      The "desktop fusion" show was not up to the same standard.

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  7. Re:Railroading by peragrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    did you even read the summary? No one has been able to duplicate his work. ever. while it is interesting and someone should study the work for other possible effects overall it has been a massive failure.

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  8. You don't need future tech by jmichaelg · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't need future tech to give the middle finger to the Middle East - you can do it now.

    One way you can reduce the Middle East's influence is to drive down the value of oil and you can do that by switching your car to natural gas. There are several companies like this one that will sell you a kit to make the switch. Googling "cng conversion kits gas" brings up a host of sources.

    Since natural gas is not taxed as heavily and demand is lower, a gallon-equivalent of natural gas costs about half what gasoline costs. The conversion kits allow you to choose between natural gas and gasoline so if you're somewhere you can't find a natural gas station, you can switch back to gasoline. If you there isn't a natural gas station near where you live, you can install a natural gas compressor in your garage that'll fill your car overnight. The downsides are you lose some trunk space to the extra tank, natural gas stations aren't as numerous as gasoline stations and since methane doesn't store as many calories as gasoline, you lose about 10% of your engine's power. For me, the later issue isn't a big deal since my car has more power than it needs to get me around.

    Natural gas is domestically produced and there's enough of it to last 100 years and that's not counting the undersea hydrate fields. I'd rather burn domestic gas than give Al-Qaeda a cut of every dollar I spend on gasoline.

    1. Re:You don't need future tech by CycoChuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We can get off Middle East oil IF the environmental wackos would let the US actually drill its own oil. Just because we can come up with other things to power our cars, it doesn't mean we don't need oil. Oil is used in just about everything in our lives, from the Tupperware container you store leftovers in to the triple antibiotic you use on cuts and scrapes.

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    2. Re:You don't need future tech by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problems with the "we need to drill more domestically" solution are:

      1) Most people in favor of more offshore drilling are typically the ones who are looking for a solution that requires the least amount of effort on their part. Just imagine how things would be different if people actually conserved energy instead of buying the biggest SUV they could find simply because gasoline was cheap.

      2) Developing countries (eg China) have a growing demand for gasoline, which is driving up the speculative price of fuel. Why should this matter? While some in congress would like to restrict the use of domestic oil to the domestic market, a large number of congressmen do not generally support such restrictions which means we would be bidding against China even for domestic oil (I'll leave the assigning of party affiliations to you). So exactly how will this effect the cost of gasoline?

      3) It will take 10 years for these new sources of oil to come to market and even begin to affect price of fuel.

      4) Most people who support domestic drilling don't live near the affected areas. Meanwhile the people who live on the gulf coast will have to suffer with eyesores and pollution (even more than we have from the current level of offshore drilling).

      5) The same people who don't mind drilling in areas far away from where they live, will fight tooth-and-nail against any refineries being built near them. Despite the fact that It is the lack of refineries that is the biggest influence on the price of gas and not the price of crude oil.

      6) The oil companies have yet to drill all the areas for which they currently have drilling rights. Why? Well because they want to show a large amount of reserves on hand for their financial reports, AND they would rather drill closer to land where the cost of drilling is cheaper than deep water drilling. The point being, there will be more eyesores and the potential for pollution for the area being drilled.

      7) Weather. Hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico have negative affects on production and safety of the off-shore platforms...

      8> As for ANWR, it's a wildlife reserve and should remain off limits to the greedy oil barons.

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  9. Both not repeatable and a tiny effect by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's really frustrating. When Pons and Fleischman originally announced "cold fusion", there was an immediate attempt at Stanford to replicate the result. The researchers gave a talk, which drew hundreds of people. In their first attempts, they had the apparatus surrounded with radiation detectors and alarms, in case there was a sudden burst of radiation. After a while, they realized that wasn't going to happen. The effect, if any, resulted in a few extra neutrons per hour over background.

    They saw some variations in neutron flux, but discovered that people standing around the apparatus affected the result. Humans have lots of water and are neutron reflectors. So they moved the apparatus into a cube of lead blocks. No more neutron emissions.

    Somebody may eventually get fusion this way, but probably won't get out more power than they put in. If you can figure out some way to put a macroscopic amount of energy into a microscopic volume, you can get a little fusion. It's been done with big capacitor banks, with lasers, with explosive compression, and with the Farnsworth Fusor. But far more energy goes in than comes out.

  10. Simple Fix... by cliffiecee · · Score: 3, Funny

    The committee 'could not find any other instances of scientists being able to replicate Taleyarkhan's results without Taleyarkhan having direct involvement with the experiments'

    The fix for this is very simple. Rename the entire process to the "Taleyarkhan Effect." Taleyarkhan will then be directly involved in every experiment, and the results will be reliably reproducible.

  11. This ain't copyright infringement by l2718 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Allegation: Taleyarkhan intentionally used data in a paper to a scientific journal that already had been used in another journal written by other authors.

    Conclusion: While Taleyarkhan broke copyright laws, the authors agreed to share the data and have not claimed plagiarism. This is not research misconduct.

    In fact, there is no copyright in data (that is, in the facts); actually, using data published by others is a hallmark of scientific progress. That's why they published the data in the first place. If he had claimed the data as his own it would be scientific misconduct; if he failed to attribute the data to its authors it would be scientific misconduct. But there is no way for him to break copyright laws by publishing facts that were generated by others. In fact, even if he used the author's actual graphs and tables (which may be copyrighted), it is not so obvious that he actually broke copyright laws -- scientific use (with attribution) may very well come under the defense of fair use. We are seeing here the results of the propaganda campaign to extend copyright beyond all bounds.

    1. Re:This ain't copyright infringement by claus.wilke · · Score: 4, Informative

      scientific use (with attribution) may very well come under the defense of fair use.

      It helps to read the report. Attribution was missing, that was the whole point of this allegation.

  12. Re:The fun that can be had with causality games by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow. "The United States has made some poor foreign policy decisions in the past." is how you euphemise 50 years of assassination, war, murder, and propping up murderous regimes while tearing down democracies with the hidden talons of the CIA.

    You're too well indoctrinated. I doubt you could take responsibility for something if you wanted to.

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