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IPhone 3G Jailbreak Released, Paves Way For Open Source Apps

PainMeds writes "iPhone Atlas is reporting that the first jailbreak for the iPhone 3G has been released, and includes the popular Cydia community installer for distributing free games and applications. Since Apple's SDK was released, web sites have criticized Apple for the restrictions placed on both what developers could write and what APIs they were allowed to use. Others have noted the SDK's incompatibility with the GPL. The Cydia installer has provided a distribution channel for both open source software and software that would otherwise be impossible to build using the restricted SDK. A few applications are already out, including MobileTerminal and NES.app, a Nintendo game console emulator. In just over a week, open development is finally here for the iPhone 3G!"

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  1. Re:so by neonmonk · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's not the real price of the iPhone however. Unlocked iPhones in Australia are around the $750 - $800 mark.

  2. Story is wrong by FlameboyC11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doesn't look like this story covers anything involving the 3g iPhone, it even mentions that you need the 1.0.0 version of the firmware, which the 3g never even shipped with (or can run)! This is talking about the old iPhone with the 2.0 software, nothing exciting. Check out the iphone dev team blog for real news about the 3g running with non signed apps, they released today! http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

  3. Re:I wonder... by samkass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really? I applied as an individual developer without any released Apple products, and have paid my $99 and got in. They were very restrictive until release day, but at this point I don't know anyone who's applied who hasn't gotten the invitation email. I got my email the day after the App Store was opened, and am halfway done with my first app.

    And as there are enough applications in the Apple Store already that it's hard to track them all, I don't think lack of apps is anything anyone's worrying about. Jailbreaking will definitely be good for GPL fanatics (as that's the only one of the open source licenses that's incompatible), but I suspect 99% of the users won't care and will stick with the convenience, support, and variety of the official store.

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  4. Re:Don't buy it by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple doesn't push updates down. You can choose not to install the updates, I know a lot of people who jailbroke the older versions still haven't upgraded to even 1.1.4.

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  5. Re:I don't want a device I have to "jailbreak" by zonky · · Score: 3, Informative

    For me it's not about replacing my battery after a year or two, but being able to swap out for my spare, fully charge battery when i am caught out, away from a charger.

  6. Except in Canada... by earthforce_1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thanks to the upcoming C-61, anybody picking "digital locks" placed on their own damned phone is liable to a $20,000 fine!

    http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3025/125/

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  7. Nah, buy it. by SignOfZeta · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apple has said that they won't make updates intentionally defeat jailbreakers. I was jailbroken from 1.0.2 all the way through 2.0. And if you need Apple's help, backup and restore your phone with the stock firmware.

    1. Re:Nah, buy it. by BLKMGK · · Score: 2, Informative

      Irreversibly? Really? So those folks still do not have working phones? Yeah, thought so. Not as bad as all that now is it?

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    2. Re:Nah, buy it. by @madeus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Upgrade 1.1 irreversibly bricked phones.

      No it did not. You cannot brick an iPhone (or iPod) just by installing customized firmware or messing about with the software on it - even if you try. Some people have a really hard time grasping that.

      What happened to some people was it restored the status of the phone to "awaiting activation" from where they could only be used with the original SIM they were bundled with (or, technically, an already activated SIM on the appropriate locales network, taken from another iPhone).

      Now that pissed some people off and meant that people who got phones and where using them with other providers couldn't keep using them anymore (as they phones wouldn't get passed activation without an activated SIM on the appropriate network for the locale being inserted).

      People liked using the term "bricked" so that's how they described it, not least because many of the people in that camp didn't HAVE an original, already unlocked SIM to insert, because the bought the phones from a 3rd party and so were left with a phone that was of no use to them (but that was really still working just fine, as intended by the vendor - but not as they desired).

      People in this category were impatient / foolish enough to rush out and install a largely untested update on a phone they'd already patched the software on. This is happening again with the latest jailbreak with people who have a very limited understanding of what they are doing running into problems they won't be able to fix, and I am sure there will be a lot of tears before bed time when they rush like lemmings to install the next official update over the top of their patched up date in a few weeks or so.

      Thankfully the Apple restore functionality for iPods and iPhones is reliable and robust. Even if you fuck one to the point where it won't boot still doesn't mean it's "bricked" - because even after doing that you can still access the restore mode and restore full functionality, loading up factory firmware on the device.

  8. Re:Don't buy it by Repton · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know about the iPhone, but as an iPod touch owner, I'm pretty sure this is a no-risk proposition. If I install an update that breaks the device, I can just do a factory restore. All my purchased apps are backed up to my computer, so all I can lose is any jailbreak apps I've installed.

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  9. Re:Assuming Apple allows you to buy it by olafva · · Score: 5, Informative

    This same situation was described on the first day by a TV reporter who was also refused as he also had a special discount. This is why potential customers were asked to come by a day or so before to check their eligibility for an iPhone 3G at the discounted rate. Clearly, thos on special discounted plans were not eligible for the full discounted rate. Thisincludes you as you could have determined by checking online before. However, it's human nature to want something and overlook the details. I'm sure you can find a solution by talking with AT&T and getting a phone from them since you are thiwr customer, however, don't expect to get the $199 or $299 discounted rate unless you give up your monthly discounted rate.

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  10. Does that make Nintendo DS a phone? by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because it is just about the only phone you can get with Wi-Fi and a touch screen.

    The Nintendo DS ($130, plus $40 for the homebrew expansion card) has Wi-Fi and a touch screen, and it can make and receive VoIP phone calls.

  11. Re:Misrepresenting the four freedoms by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

    He's talking about the GPL v3, which specifically says you can't require code signing.

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  12. Re:Assuming Apple allows you to buy it by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Informative

    I still can't believe I don't currently own an iPhone 3G.

    This issue was widely reported the day of the launch in various forums.

    The solution is very simple: call AT&T and ask them to remove the discount from your account. Buy the iPhone from the Apple Store, then call AT&T to reinstate the discount.

    There were multiple reports of people doing this -- some of whom were actually standing in line waiting to buy an iPhone and resolved the problem before they got to the front of the line.

    Or, you can do like I did and avoid the lines altogether:

    • Wait for an AT&T store to sell out of iPhones (I went late on Friday, July 11)
    • Walk in and go right to a sales rep, and order an iPhone from the warehouse.
    • Wait for it to be shipped to the store, with your name on it.
    • AT&T calls you when it arrives.
    • Walk in, activate it, and be done in about 15 minutes.

    I got mine on Friday, July 18 -- a week after ordering it.

  13. This "incompatible with FOSS" FUD is annoying by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get on with the news, zealots: the final SDK has been released July 11, so the NDA has been lifted for more than a week now. I wish people would stop with that bullshit about not being able to make open source apps on the iPhone.

    There is NOTHING stopping you from distributing code that targets the iPhone SDK. In fact, nothing prevents you from distributing binaries of OSS apps on the App Store while still providing source code for them on your website or whatever.

    The only problematic license is the GPLv3 because of its infamous anti-tivo clause, but barely anyone uses the v3 anyway, and those using it are RMS fanboy zealots who are better not buying the iPhone because they'll just whine relentlessly about it.

  14. Discounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I got mine through an ATT store, but was told the university discount ATT gives me did not apply to the iPhone. But, since it DID apply to a standard phone, I opened the account with their cheapest cell phone, then immediately added the iPhone on a Family Plan. The 15% discount (YMMV) applied to the service and the SSM plan, but not to the iPhone's charges added to the Family Plan ($9.99 plus $30 for data). When the dust settled, it was cheaper for me to give my father the Family Plan phone and keep the iPhone than purchase the iPhone alone.

    Two points here. Firstly, Apple does not participate in corporate or educational discounts on the iPhone. ATT offers any discounts to service. Apple must refer you to ATT if you are a participant of a special discount. The grand-parent posting should have read the fine print on that matter before making a scene at the Apple Store. He SHOULD have been asked to leave (and go to ATT where he could apply his discount).

    Secondly, the fundamental problem with the grandparent-parent posting is due to the bifurcated channels of distribution (Apple Store and ATT) interacting with the temporary limited supply of the phones. While the iPhone is wonderful (don't get me started on GSM vs CDMA though) there isn't a person alive who needs one this instant. With a minimum of patience the distribution channel will flush out enough iPhones for everyone --- including the parent poster. But trust me, if he wants the discount, he WILL have to go to ATT, not Apple.

  15. Re:Eh... by mashade · · Score: 2, Informative

    But... there is! :)

    http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

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