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IPhone 3G Jailbreak Released, Paves Way For Open Source Apps
PainMeds writes "iPhone Atlas is reporting that the first jailbreak for the iPhone 3G has been released, and includes the popular Cydia community installer for distributing free games and applications. Since Apple's SDK was released, web sites have criticized Apple for the restrictions placed on both what developers could write and what APIs they were allowed to use. Others have noted the SDK's incompatibility with the GPL. The Cydia installer has provided a distribution channel for both open source software and software that would otherwise be impossible to build using the restricted SDK. A few applications are already out, including MobileTerminal and NES.app, a Nintendo game console emulator. In just over a week, open development is finally here for the iPhone 3G!"
Buying a product so you can crack it is just retarded.
How we know is more important than what we know.
Because OpenMoko looks like the iPhone's ugly cousin from Kentucky? How about the fact that the iPhone already has numerous apps and a lot of momentum in app development? How about the fact that the standard software on the iPhone is much more polished than anything the OpenMoko will produce?
I'm more interested in Android and very interested in what platforms may support it. (You know if, if it gets out of Beta(tm) stage)
Flamebait? By pointing out the OpenMoko's obvious downsides to the iPhone? Are you kidding me? The overzealous sensitive mods are out in force!
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of the OpenMoko, but the execution is poor considering the considerable competition. People are developing plenty of apps for the iPhone because it is popular and it does have a very polished user interface. The iPhone has staying power. The OpenMoko? Not so much.
That's not the real price of the iPhone however. Unlocked iPhones in Australia are around the $750 - $800 mark.
Doesn't look like this story covers anything involving the 3g iPhone, it even mentions that you need the 1.0.0 version of the firmware, which the 3g never even shipped with (or can run)! This is talking about the old iPhone with the 2.0 software, nothing exciting. Check out the iphone dev team blog for real news about the 3g running with non signed apps, they released today! http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
I realize the iPhone has a cool interface and all, but if so many people have a problem with Apple's tactics over this, why buy one?
It's like criticizing the makers of Soylent Green for using people as the ingredients and yet YOU STILL EAT SOYLENT GREEN.
No sig for you!!
Not that I don't appreciate the effort, but the App Store has more than held my sway over the old Installer.app-style stuff. Just about everything I want is free on there, and there's really a handful of stuff that will not be on there (emulators, as I'm assuming they count as "illegal" and pr0n -- but who needs pr0n in an app anyway)? So far, the stuff that has come out (e.g. radio apps) and what people are working on (about 5 programmers that I know of are doing VOIP apps -- and Apple already said there'd be no problem putting them up on the store).
I even downloaded the SDK and, yeah, while you can't do anything crazy with kernel or whatever in an "official" program, the API is pretty robust (pretty much any app can call one or two commands to find the GPS location -- that's pretty cool). I'm tempted to write my own apps now.
I mean, yeah, open source is cool and all. But all I wanted was the apps, and 99% of what I want is going to end up on the App store (in some cases for free). I haven't even jailbroken my phone at this point.
Honestly, I don't understand why so many intelligent people love the iPhone. From what I understand (and I'm happy to be corrected) here are some of the big drawbacks:
1) Heavily restricted and requires "jailbreak"
2) I read that in Australia at least must be hooked up to iTunes before it can make anything other than emergency calls! WTF????
3) Doesn't play as many different types of media as other devices?
4) Overhyped and overpriced
5) Built in expensive to replace battery.
6) No storage expansion.
It's suppose to be stylish. For some anything that Steve Jobs does is considered stylish. Such is the myth, that the man could start a style trend by being caught scratching his balls in public - within minutes fanboys would be espousing the health benefits of doing it, and deriding anyone who questioned the wisdom or decorum of doing it. Use your brains and quit with the mindless consumerism and hero worship. Function over form. Use your brains or suffer the consequences. Jailbreaking this thing is like buying a stylish little city runabout, then trying to haul a 2 tonne boat with it.
Watch me get modded into oblivion for daring to criticise the thing. C'est la slashdot.
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Because OpenMoko is unusable, at least on the FreeRunner hardware. Seriously? A keyboard where the keys are so small that my relatively small fingers can't avoid hitting two at once?
The mods aren't overzealous, they're from Kentucky.
(picture in TFA)
On Mac, even exploits have user-friendly GUIs!
Those who would give up liberty to obtain working drivers, deserve neither liberty nor working drivers.
Really? I applied as an individual developer without any released Apple products, and have paid my $99 and got in. They were very restrictive until release day, but at this point I don't know anyone who's applied who hasn't gotten the invitation email. I got my email the day after the App Store was opened, and am halfway done with my first app.
And as there are enough applications in the Apple Store already that it's hard to track them all, I don't think lack of apps is anything anyone's worrying about. Jailbreaking will definitely be good for GPL fanatics (as that's the only one of the open source licenses that's incompatible), but I suspect 99% of the users won't care and will stick with the convenience, support, and variety of the official store.
E pluribus unum
The SDK is XCode and GCC. Neither one cares which license you use. Apple's iPhone app store requires signing, which conflicts withe the GPLv3, but it doesn't prevent using the GPLv2 or other open source licenses and it doesn't prevent you from distributing the code (or binaries).
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Thanks to the upcoming C-61, anybody picking "digital locks" placed on their own damned phone is liable to a $20,000 fine!
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3025/125/
My rights don't need management.
Apple has said that they won't make updates intentionally defeat jailbreakers. I was jailbroken from 1.0.2 all the way through 2.0. And if you need Apple's help, backup and restore your phone with the stock firmware.
Shit guys, Nintendo is losing potential money over Twenty Year Old games. People are gonna get sued all over the place for this one, goddamn! Piracy of games from 4 console generations ago is really hurting their bottom line.
Also, you might want to talk to the MAME people about what exactly an emulator is for. But, even if you allow yourself to become knowledgeable, don't let it get the way of your trolling!
In before "virtual console sales!" comment completely ignoring the "portability" aspect.
If it were anybody but Nintendo I'd agree with you, but Nintendo tends to re-release stuff over and over.
Playing emulated abandonware obtained through less-than-official channels is fine IMHO, but the ethics of playing games that are still available commercially are less clear-cut.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I had my first experience being denied the privilege to purchase a product yesterday. I called the Apple store at the nearest mall to verify they had units in stock, which they did. I then drove the two hours to said mall, in all eagerness to buy the product. After 30 minutes in line, and 20 minutes in angry negotiation with the Apple employee, I walked out of the store without an iPhone. They were in stock; I am an AT&T customer with an existing iPhone and eligible for an upgrade; and my account is in good standing. Unfortunately for me, there is a mysterious IFU tag on my account, which AT&T later explained means one of lines has a discount or special promotion on it, rendering me ineligible to purchase in an Apple store. As Apple refused to sell me the phone, I asked if I could bring an AT&T employee from their kiosk (literally a few dozen meters from the Apple store) to assist with the purchase. Impossible, said Apple. I asked if they could sell the unit to the AT&T kiosk to let AT&T then sell it to me or arrange some such similar inventory transfer. Impossible, Apple said. I asked if there were any way to broker a deal in the Apple store by including an AT&T employee. No, they said, and they asked me to leave. I was, admittedly, very angry. It's the prerogative of the company to choose how and to whom they sell their products, but it seems in infinitely bad taste to do either in so far as you are able. In fact, it seems like unmitigated arrogance to deny such a sale based on some vainglorious corporate policy to lock your device to a vendor and a service provider. I've never been disappointed by Apple before now in my last 2 years of Apple fanboydom. But.. hot apple sauce. I still can't believe I don't currently own an iPhone 3G.
If it looks like a duck, let's call it a moose.
Make copyright periods too long, and eventually you have companies like Nintendo re-releasing old games in lieu of actually producing new content.
Not buying a great product you can easily crack is even more retarded. If you limit your options only to fully supported models of distribution you'll never have anything. You'll also face a life of being totally ripped off by the people that have you at the mercy of limited options.
The car dealer recommends you change the oil at the dealership, do you do that every tie as well?
We live in the hackers age. Embrace that, and win.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Are you so apoplectic at people who install the XBox media center, cutting themselves off from official XBox updates?
REAL hackers accept the path of the parallel path they take. In reality there is no risk since you can always cut back to the main branch from Apple if things stop working - but why would they? If things work today they will continue to work as long as the device does.
You are just making excuses for continuance of your irrational Apple hatred.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I love the idea of OpenMoko, but the thing is unusable, which is a shame, because people won't take it seriously once they get a load of the laughably bad interface. Qtopia looks a bit better, but it's not much of an improvement. The project needs some real interface expertise if it has any hope of success; all Android has to do to trump it is to be marginally less unusable. And does anyone know the purpose of that hole in the FreeRunner?
Because it is just about the only phone you can get with Wi-Fi and a touch screen.
The Nintendo DS ($130, plus $40 for the homebrew expansion card) has Wi-Fi and a touch screen, and it can make and receive VoIP phone calls.
He's talking about the GPL v3, which specifically says you can't require code signing.
How we know is more important than what we know.
What, you didn't keep all of your old Nintendo carts? Guess YOU are the one playing the pirated games then. Many of the rest of us still have the carts.
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So is almost every other phone that people buy.
Once again, this is only a reason why you don't want it. It's not a reason why nobody should want it.
If you mod me Overrated, you are admitting that you have no penis.
I doubt there is a single person out there making a bona fide attempt at a full NES homebrew game right now.
I developed Tetramino, a falling block game for people who care about falling block games. And I'm single.
Get on with the news, zealots: the final SDK has been released July 11, so the NDA has been lifted for more than a week now. I wish people would stop with that bullshit about not being able to make open source apps on the iPhone.
There is NOTHING stopping you from distributing code that targets the iPhone SDK. In fact, nothing prevents you from distributing binaries of OSS apps on the App Store while still providing source code for them on your website or whatever.
The only problematic license is the GPLv3 because of its infamous anti-tivo clause, but barely anyone uses the v3 anyway, and those using it are RMS fanboy zealots who are better not buying the iPhone because they'll just whine relentlessly about it.
The one thing I will miss about my Treo was 3rd party apps to tether my phone to the laptop (to be used as a modem.) People can criticize these efforts, but efforts such as this may enable customers to tether their iPhone to a computer/laptop as a modem as well.
Otherwise you're stuck getting a separate plan and adaptor from ATT to do so when you already have a device that's perfectly capable.
Architectural Renderings
Any hatred is irrational, but Apple does seem quite opposed to Freedom these days,
In what way?
Apple offers countless examples in support of Freedom. They support Webkit, GCC, LLVM, a multitude of common open source apps like Apache, Bonjour, Squirrelfish, etc. etc. etc.
If you yearn to support those who aid software Freedom, as I do (been a paid member of the FSF for years now) then you too would support Apple and the various open source efforts they contribute heavily to.
In the end only your hatred is misplaced, for Apple has no cause for it.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
They also offer many examples in opposition to Freedom: DRM on iTunes music and video purchases
But Apple is trying to change that with itunes+, a non-DRM'ed format they sell.
vendor lock-in with their OS
An open sourcing Darwin....
tight control over iPhone development (e.g. no emulators, no virtual machines, and no distribution except through Apple)...
That's not a problem of Freedom though. You are still free to develop all those things, you just can't distribute some of them. You can always distribute via the Jailbreak mechanism.
If you overlook the many examples of Frredom that Apple supports and has supported just to point out a few areas where they are more locked down, you'll never even find a company "pure" enough for you. Why not encourage the companies that more heavily support open source, rather than less?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sure it can. However, it cannot ALSO take photographs, use WWAN broadband, send/receive text messages, etc. It is the convergence between these things that is useful and interesting.
Using the phone as a terminal is precisely what I do -- along with other things.
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