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Oyster Card Hack To Be Released, In Good Time

DangerFace writes "A little while ago some Dutch researchers cracked the Oyster card, meaning they could get free public transport around London. The company that makes the cards, NXP, sought and got an injunction to stop the exploit being published, but that has now been overruled by a Dutch judge. The lovely Dutch blokes are holding off from releasing the hack for the time being, to give NXP time to secure their systems."

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  1. Key line by Dolohov · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I have mixed feelings about the publishing of exploits, this line hits the nail on the head:

    In its ruling, the court said: "Damage to NXP is not the result of the publication of the article but of the production and sale of a chip that appears to have shortcomings."

    This is an important lesson to companies like Diebold.

    1. Re:Key line by Steauengeglase · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I could be wrong, but I don't think the Diebold fiasco was ever officially denounced and called a bad thing. It got certain people in office and kept others in. I think the powers that be would consider that a rousing success.

  2. Are they serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So let me get this straight.

    1. Researchers discover hole in Oystercard implementation.
    2. Oystercard operator ignores warnings from researchers.
    3. Oystercard operater takes researchers to court instead of working to fix identified vulnerabilities.
    4. Injunction granted.
    5. Injunction overturned.
    5. Researchers continue to give Oystercard operator time to fix their system, in addition to the time they had prior to the court action.

    Were I in their situation I would have publically released information on the hack the moment the injunction was overturned. If vendors of ANY type of system want to fuck with people who show every intention of trying to HELP them, they deserve everything they get.

  3. Re:let em release it by Notquitecajun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wear and tear. Worse gas mileage. The attitude of freeloading, or better yet, stealing, and that it "doesn't matter." Also the matter that this is something that would get WIDESPREAD in a city like London. We wouldn't be talking the occasional computer nerd - hacked cards would make their way into PLENTY of hands, and every hoodie-with-ASBOS-and-ringtones would be getting "free" rides.

  4. Why yes, they do by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sidewalks are great for walking on. At no cost!

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    Stop the brainwash

    1. Re:Why yes, they do by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > The sidewalks are great for walking on. At no cost!

      Until the ID card surveillance system comes in. Then we pay to walk. To breathe. To exist.

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      Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
  5. Re:let em release it by PJ+The+Womble · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The cost of using public transport in London borders on the ridiculous. It's around US$2 to go 200 yards on a bus with an Oyster card. If you haven't got a card, it's over US$4.

    They've cut all the bus routes into a quarter of the length they used to be - meaning that you have to take 4 times as many buses to complete your journey, at 4 times the price and a much longer journey time.

    London's bus companies have been privatised. Does this mean that any efficiency savings are passed on to the passenger? I won't bother to answer that one... just have a surf around and see how much subsidy they're getting.

    You'd think, then, that local taxes in London would be real cheap. Oh dear me no, that would be a wrong assumption. One pays local tax (Council Tax) to the borough in which one lives, and then a further tax to the Mayor of London's Office. The *average* charge across outer London for this year is nearly US$3000 per annum.

    In London, there is no such thing as a free ride.

  6. Re:let em release it by totallyarb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the bus isn't full and you otherwise wouldn't have paid, then what's the problem?

    Sometimes it's hard to tell if people are posting ironically, but I'm going to go ahead an answer as though you were serious.

    The philosophical reason you don't take free rides on buses is that paying your bus fare is a Kantian categorical imperative. The ability to take a free ride on a bus presupposes the existence of a bus service, but were everybody to ride for free, the bus service would cease to run, negating the possibility of a free ride.

    Actually, the real reason is a lot simpler: You're getting something of value, so you have an obligation to give something of value in return. Only parasites and slavers fail to abide by this principle. Which would you like to be?

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  7. Re:Only London air visible? by Langfat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been to London and LA...

    ...as well as Beijing and Cairo. Gimme a call when you've left the Western world and we'll really talk about air pollution ;)