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Apollo 14 Moonwalker Claims Aliens Exist
An anonymous reader writes "Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell — a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission — has stunningly claimed aliens exist. And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions — but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades. Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'"
Dr. Mitchell has been saying this about aliens for many years now. He's always had a bit of a pseudo-scientific bent. During his Apollo 14 flight to the moon, he secretly conducted ESP experiments with friends back on Earth.
back to Earth aboard Apollo 14, Mitchell had an epiphany while looking down on the earth from space. "The presence of divinity became almost palpable, and I knew that life in the universe was not just an accident based on random processes ... The knowledge came to me directly," here
Who would have thought that he'd go totally nuts one day.
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I'm going to get Mitchell's back on at least part of this.
Roswell is real. I had lunch there just a few weeks ago on my way to Carlsbad. Don't visit - Nothing to do, nothing to see, just a dirty little town in the New Mexico desert. Don't bother.
What? Did they close the UFO museum? And the Robert Goddard Museum? Those are two things to see.
Been a few years since I was down there, but I didn't really think it was a dirty town at all. Seemed kind of nice. Even had big aliens printed on the Walmart.
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Not precisely true. They were selected beause they were good pilots, as well as good scientists, as well as good athletes... quick thinkers... cool headed... great engineers.... competant mathematicians... conversant astronomers.... ad nauseum.
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What? Did they close the UFO museum? And the Robert Goddard Museum? Those are two things to see.
Been a few years since I was down there, but I didn't really think it was a dirty town at all. Seemed kind of nice. Even had big aliens printed on the Walmart.
I was including the UFO museum under "nothing to see". YMMV. Never been to the Goddard museum.
And yes, they've got aliens painted everywhere. Even the McDonald's was built with a alien theme. If that's interesting to you, I guess it's at least unique. Personally, I find it a little gaudy and obnoxious - Basically just reminding everyone that the "UFO crash" is the only reason that anyone would be willing to visit. Again, YMMV.
To be fair, the town was a lot nicer last time I was there than I remember it as a kid. They unfortunately have gang issues (strange for a city that small - also this could have been fixed since last I heard), but they're working hard to clean up their image. I may have been unduly harsh on them while attempting to be funny, but I'm still not a big fan. Unless you've got a kid at NMMI, Roswell's a good place to drive through, not to, IMO.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
They were doing that, too.
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100 years ago was 1908. Marconi had successfully demonstrated transatlantic wireless communication seven years previous.
OK, so you believe him? You believe there are aliens. Right?
I'd be happy to join you if you provide proof of that. Incontrovertible proof. In the era of pervasive digital imaging, someone must have that, somewhere. Surely? Maybe it's just a coincidence that the number of "quality" UFO sightings dropped dramatically after the 70s. Yeah. So let's see it. Because otherwise you're asking me to have faith. And quite frankly, at that point the "ufologist" starts to sound suspiciously like a Jehova's Witness.
I'm ready to believe the truth is out there. Just show me proof.
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That was not supposed to be revealed. A nasty tentacle is on its way to claim your mortal husk.
There is no real evidence here of anything but government misconduct. They are either covering up real contact or creating the whole story to cover up other secrets.
Either case is reprehensible but the former is worse. Periodically, US government agents lend enough credibility to UFO stories for anyone who distrusts government to suspect a cover up. They also also strongly deny this kind of thing and monitor those who listen. In other words, they actively encourage beliefs which are helpful or harmless to themselves but damaging to those who would believe them. We can quote a letter from the first director of the CIA to Congress on this subject:
This is a waste of taxpayer money which creates a demand for further wasteful spending and gives credence to all manner of crackpot theories while stigmatizing people with reasonable beliefs. Note that this is exactly the opposite of what is publically claimed. Secrecy makes it impossible to determine anything.
There can be no doubt that intelligent life exists on other planets. It is also clear that our government could do nothing but request assistance if confronted by a society that has intergalactic travel capability.
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I said nothing of the sort. He claims to have witnessed a briefing on the subject. I do know that he has said this. I wasn't present at that briefing and do not know what happened there or what was said.
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Apropos of nothing, I went to high school with Aldrin's daughter. Damn was she hot.
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Also, a relative of mine told me that around 1969 or 70 or so at night she and a friend were on the porch talking. A light source came down, low/tree-top, over the street, quietly. It was NOT like any aircraft or hobby toys of the time. It seemed to be observing them, or just hanging around, then it abruptly left.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning perhaps?
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We've found life in the freezing cold depths of the ocean where light doesn't penetrate. We've found life on the edges of volcanos.
And all of it is related, and all evolved from the same source. When life began there was no oxygen on the planet.
We've mixed together chemical soups and watched life erupt out of it.
If we have, this is the first I've heard of it. Have you any reputable links?
Obviously, life isn't a unique and special thing, but something that naturally erupts into existence all over the place.
Again, as far as we know it only started once on this planet, and although there may be or have been life on Mars or Europa we have never found proof of it. The only place we've ever found hints of life are right here.
Therefore, there must be life all over the universe, and not just here on Earth.
Your conclusion is based on a false premise, but despite that I think it highly unlikely that in the vast reaches of our galaxy, let alone the unimaginably huge number of planets in the universe, that we are alone. If life arose independantly here from non-life, it must have risen independantly elsewhere. But if it did, it is absurdly improbable that it would look anything like us.
The universe doesn't tend towards entropy. It tends towards life. We are walking, talking evidence of this fact.
Life is part of entropy.
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Someone on slashdot recommended a good book which debunks these myths and tries to explain why people believe them. It also argues why science is important in our society and the risks of having people making decisions without truly understanding the issues at hand. Unfortunately, there are people in politics for example believing in UFOs, satanism, intelligent design, etc etc. There is nothing more healthy for a society than a good dose of skepticism. The book is called "The Demon-haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan.
Last I read there was some supporting evidence for this position. In fact, IIRC, the official position is that while vaccinations may cause other health risks, any associated side effects effect a much small population than an unvaccinated population. Simple fact is, there isn't enough information to disprove such positions. And, like cell phones, some studies do indicate their use may have negative side effects.
Now then, I'm not saying he's right. What I am saying, your statement seems to imply he's crazy for taking such a position while in reality, you taking such a position seems to imply the same about you. It's probably best to simply accept, while unlikely, it's still possible. The jury is still out.
Just some food for thought.
The jury is not still out, and you must have last read about it in 1998, before that study was retracted and corrected. Larger studies since have found zero link between MMR vaccinations and autism. Here's what the CDC has to say on the matter.
Also, study after study has found no statistical link between cell phone use and cancer. Additionally, the output of a typical cell phone is about 100 milliwatts; this is so small as to be insignificant.
So yes, continuing to espouse such theories when they have been consistently shown to be false and relying on irrational fear instead of a discussion of facts can be considered crazy. By all means keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.
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It could, but this isn't the first time he has made these claims. He isn't the only person from that era either. Buzz Aldrin from the appolo 11 missions has made similar claims.
I have heard others too. They attempt to hide their identities to not be retaliated on but they sound just like other astronauts who where in positions to know.
This is the first time I have hear an astronaut claim Roswell was real though. The rest of what he said seems to be the same.
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If you've ever seen a roadkill deer sitting next to the road, and pictures of the supposedly mutilated cattle, its just how a dead thing looks after a few days of lying around given natural bacterial, insect, and scavenger activity. Discovery did a great job of debunking this one. I can't remember the show, but now that gas prices are high enough that roadkill doesn't get picked up regularly, just look at a deer the next time its been lying beside the road for 3 days. Exactly the same patterns.
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Keeping a secret can be done rather effectively via compartmentalizations.
The Manhattan project was kept a secret, even though somewhere around 100,000 people worked on it. And some secrets from the Cold War are only starting to become public just in recent years.
Just think what they would be able to keep secret with something that has an even higher security classification than the Manhattan project.
There are various Disclosure Project witnesses who tell how the secrets are being kept. Check Google video / YouTube for this material.
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Buzz Aldrin never made any such claims.
You know what, nevermind that. I suggest you go ask Buzz himself. I know how it'll end; he'll clock you one just like the Moon Hoax idiot.
And why would they bother hiding anyway? Would WE hide from a race that was stone knives and bearskins while we have F18s and nuclear powered aircraft carriers?
The result of contact with an alien race could be devastating to our economics and, depending on the information they might share, potential disaster for religion as well.
Another possibility is that they could be studying the evolution of our culture.
For every good reason I can think of for them to reveal their presence (if they're here) there's just as good of a reason for them to remain hidden.
I might buy the sock to hanger conversion, with trivial alien intervention or a little black sock module in the dryer, but I just don't see how they can possibly get back up on the closet rod after the transformation. BTW, I'm an unwavering post-transformationalist, so don't even start the argument that they migrate to the closet rods as pre-hanger, sock pupae. The fossil evidence doesn't bear that out.
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