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Debian Maintainer Hints At September Release for Lenny
nerdyH writes "The Debian project's maintainer, Luke Claes, announced in an email Saturday that he will freeze the 'testing' or 'Lenny' tree, in preparation for a new stable release of Debian Linux in ... September! The freeze means that open source software developers have only a couple more days to package any applications that they want to be included in the next release of Debian — and by extension, in the inner sanctum source lists of distributions such as Ubuntu that are based on it. After the freeze starts next week, Debian maintainers will turn their attention to 364 release-critical bugs, and half-a-dozen high-priority goals. Given the work to be done, is September really feasible? Lenny always was a little slow getting back to his right place ..."
Put simply, no. See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/01/msg00001.html
There's now a security repository for testing, just like there is for stable, and the repos are in a default sources.list if you install testing directly. http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/
Use '>' and '<' for '>' and '<', respectively.
It has been known to happen! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885932 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811751 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913788 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909363
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All Debian releases are named after Toy Story characters. Lenny is a pair of binoculars with feet.
Being confused is healthy. G95 (g95.sourceforge.net) is NOT gfortran, which is a Fortran 90 implementation, not a Fortran 95 implementation. gfortran is also listed by organizations such as NASA as not to be used due to severe bugs, with instructions to use g95 instead. Hey, I can only go by what they say. I can't access the other pages you linked to - I suspect they're now slashdotted. However, HDF5 1.8.1 is extremely stable and is the version people are supposed to be using. No idea what version of ATLAS Debian is using, but the latest stable (and yes, it is stable) version is 3.8.2. If Debian is using anything later than 3.6, I'd be surprised. MUMPS is used in specialist areas. By not including it, it obviously won't impact anyone who does use Debian since, if they needed MUMPS, Debian isn't something they'd use. It's self-fulfilling and therefore quite useless as a measure of interest. The question should be one of "if MUMPS was included, what changes would there be in the size and nature of the userbase, if any"? That is entirely different, as it does not fall into the recursive dependency trap.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
What the hell are you talking about? Using Sid is fine whether you're a Debian developer or not. I've used it for years on various machines and it's never bitten me. I do development in various languages and platforms, as well as need to compile C, C++ applications.
Your comment is typically elitest, and damnright wrong.
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Using stable in your sources.list is generally a bad idea. Moving from release to release should be a concious dessision done with a copy of the release notes in hand. Going in with a blind dist-upgrade often causes problems which may be tricky to recover from.
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Check out here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openjdk-6.html
http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=openjdk-6
Looks like it is blocked by a new FTBFS on sparc.
Your comment is typically elitest, and damnright wrong.
eh? he's just speaking the truth, Sid certainly has some serious bugs now and then. I also got bitten by a GRUB bug which made my system unbootable, and with bigger transitions there's always some dependency breakage. but you just have to get accustomed to this things, and be careful when doing big upgrades. I still run Sid on my home machine and my personal server, but I would only recommend it if you already have experience with Debian.
Because Ubuntu is snapshot of unstable, isn't a LTS version somekind "snapshot" from the "Stable"?
Nope...it just means that they will support it longer (security updates for 3 years for desktop, 5 years for server) than the regular releases (18 months for server and desktop). Hence the Long Term Support moniker.
Ubuntu is built off a snapshot of Unstable,
Not exactly, changes are auto-imported from debian unstable only for packages that don't have any ubuntu specific changes.
so I don't see how Debian's freeze will affect it.
Debian tries to keep testing and unstable pretty close to each other. Changes in unstable that are not wanted in testing can be a major PITA when bugs need to be fixed (there is another way into testing but they prefer not to use it because the packages get far less testing when they are introduced by that route).
So while unstable is not technically frozen developers are strongly discouraged from uploading stuff to unstable that are not intended to become part of lenny
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1) It's Luk, not Luke
2) He's a Release Manager, not the Debian project's maintainer. Whatever that is.