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FSF's "Defective By Design" Targets Apple Genius Bars

mjasay writes "At OSCON this year, MySQL's Brian Aker made this bold statement: 'Microsoft is irrelevant ... We're more worried about Apple.' The Free Software Foundation appears to have caught the hint, and has turned its attention to all-things-Apple with a 'denial of service' attack on the Apple Genius Bars. The idea is to completely book all Genius Bars and then ask the 'geniuses,' over and over again, a few questions about Apple's proprietary ways (while, apparently, real customers with support issues are left to flounder). Lost in this anti-Apple fervor, however, is the Free Software Foundation's complete and conscious failure to protect the web. Richard Stallman has long felt that software that doesn't sit on his desktop doesn't affect his freedom, but isn't the opposite true? Why is the FSF focused on Apple when the bigger concern should be Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, and other web players, a point made by Tim O'Reilly recently at OSCON?" Defective by Design is just one of many FSF projects, remember; it hardly seems fair to say that the FSF has been ignoring the implications of software as a service.

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  1. Re:This is harassment by antime · · Score: 0, Troll

    Having people standing around with soap and buckets of water should be enough to keep the FSF at bay.

  2. Re:This is why they will never be taken seriously by speedtux · · Score: 0, Troll

    Immature bullshit like this.

    As opposed to mature bullshit, like when Jobs tried to defraud the FSF out of gcc, or when Apple tried to defraud the public out of using graphical user interfaces?

    A You have a point, you can advertise it on your web site,

    Yeah, Apple would love that: Apple's billions in marketing dollars and PR against FSF's nearly zero budget.

    Organizations like FSF don't win by putting up a few web pages.

    but grow the fuck up. Doing shit like this will only turn people AWAY from your message.

    I don't think the FSF gives a damn about annoying people like you.

    Personally, I wouldn't participate in such an action. But I can see why the FSF is doing it, and nothing you have said suggests that it's a bad idea. Being controversial and annoying the hell out of Macintosh users simply isn't going to hurt the FSF with anybody in their target audience.

    And this is not the first time that the FSF has taken on Apple, and it hasn't hurt them. Even Apple depends on FSF software.

  3. Re:sounds good to me by speedtux · · Score: 0, Troll

    If you're a UNIX/Linux supporter, however, you need to realize how important Apple has been to you.

    I've been a UNIX user for 20 years. Apple has been nothing but trouble and annoyance. They tried to kill all other GUIs with lawsuits, Jobs tried to steal GNU software, and Apple more than anybody else has perpetuated myths and lies about UNIX and Linux usability.

    Apple products aren't perfect, but they are good enough to hold off the behemoth, and that's been worth something.

    Apple hasn't been "holding Microsoft at bay", Apple is in bed with Microsoft, and Apple has done nothing significant to help open source.

  4. Re:This is why they will never be taken seriously by glitch23 · · Score: 0, Troll

    by large segments of the population. Immature bullshit like this. You have a point, you can advertise it on your web site, but grow the fuck up. Doing shit like this will only turn people AWAY from your message.

    Says someone who talks like a high school boy showing off to his friends how many curse words he can use in a single sentence.

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    this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. -- Lincoln, Gettysburg Address
  5. Re:The positive side of this, for those who care by gnasher719 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Fine, but harassing retail workers with questions like "Why does iTunes still contain so much DRM-laden music?" isn't going to accomplish anything...

    What kind of word is "laden" anyway? Doesn't the use of a word like "laden" alone make that person look like an idiot? I wouldn't be surprised if Rowling's next book is "Harry Potter and the laden iPod"...

  6. Re:Mean-spirited? by Crass+Spektakel · · Score: 0, Troll

    > I've sent several donations already this year,
    > but I won't be sending more.

      Proof or STFU

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    "Life is short and in most cases it ends with death." Sir Sinclair
  7. Re:Mean-spirited? by Huwawa · · Score: 0, Troll

    Disclaimer: I do not drive an SUV, I never have, probably never will, and think that many SUV owners don't need an SUV.

    I think that people who actually need SUVs are the minority of SUV owners. There aren't that many places one needs an SUV where people actually use them because in the places still rural enough where people need them, people usually can't afford them.

  8. Re:how is that justification? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 0, Troll

    You exposed nothing of the sort. I'm not impressed with MLKs achievements because I don't find them impressive achievements, and said so.

    You think your country represents freedom, and that he was a great man.

    I think your country represents tyranny, inequality, exploitation and war, and that MLK was an insignificant man who has been put on a pedestal because it is politically correct to do so.

    He didn't make a better way of life possible, all he did was ranted about what his brothers and sisters ought to do, and then he died, and they don't do it, because they're trapped in an exploitative system that is beyond their capacities to escape, and he didn't change that fact in the slightest.

    He's a sorry excuse for a hero who achieved not very much at all.

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    -1 Uncomfortable Truth