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Your Computer and Cell Phone Are Lying To You

Ant writes with a story from Dan's Data, which says that the battery meter and connection-strength displays in your portable electronics are lying to you, "and not just when they whisper to you in the night." Quoting: "Mobile phones, and most modern laptops, have signal strength and battery life displays. One or both of these displays has probably been the focus of all of your attention at one time or another. Neither display is actually telling you what you think it's telling you. The signal strength bars on a mobile phone or laptop do, at least, say something about how strong the local signal is. But they don't tell you the ratio between that signal and the inevitable, and often very considerable, noise that accompanies it ..."

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  1. pedantry by caffeinemessiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Neither display is actually telling you what you think it's telling you.

    Who cares? When it's full, my laptop or cellphone works great. When it's empty, the thing stops working. When there's only a few bars left, I either plug it in / move to a different location. IMO, it perfectly performs its intended duty. Anything beyond that is geek pedantry and nitpicking.

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  2. Re:Pshaw by cushdan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And I bet you're going to tell us next that DRM isn't for our own good and is just a way for conglomerates to steal more of our money with little effort done on their part. Hah!

    skillful integration of two /. themes "I already knew that" "DRM is bad"

  3. Re:Ummm, doesn't "lying" imply free will? by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simply Anthropomorphism. I talk to my car when it runs bad. I don't expect it to hear me or comprehend, but I do anyway. I talk to the computer, too.

    When I talk to machines, for some reason it's always cursing, as in "GOD DAMNED PIECE OF SHIT..."

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  4. Re:Wifi meters by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've written a wifi signal strength meter for an embedded product. During my research, I found it was pretty much standard to base the bumber of bars on the signal to noise ratio, not the raw signal strength.

    Not in the least because many common wifi chipsets don't make raw signal strength available to the rest of the system. Cellular modules do, but if you ask a phone maker how the number of bars corresponds to the error rate and signal strength, they won't tell you. Although a bit of experimentation reveals that as long as the error rate is low and the signal is above the noise floor, you get full bars. That's probably marketing.

    The battery conspiracy thing is a bit silly. Rechargable battery chemistry follows an S-curve. There's a very short period at the beginning with the battery over the nominal voltage, a long and almost linear middle section, and a short period at the end where the voltage drops quickly. So a naive voltage measurement gives exactly as described in the article -- almost full most of the time with a quick drop at the end. A less naive measurement is very tricky because the voltage in the linear section depends not only on state of charge, but current draw, recent current draw, temperature, the age of the battery being used, etc. The best way to do it accurately is to track a particular battery through its charge cycle and monitor current in and current out. Smart batteries like those in laptops do. I don't think cell phone batteries are smart batteries.

  5. Re:Pshaw by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or you could try to not get into an accident. The best way to do that is to drive a small, agile car and watch where you're going (I can tell you it really works wonders! Even just watching where you're going and minding the objects around you makes a huge difference!). But why go through all that trouble? It's better to get the biggest cudgel of a vehicle that's practical and let physics sort 'em out!*

    *hint: your safety is not determined solely by the G-forces you experience in an accident.

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