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Politician Takes Enlightened Stance on Gaming

GamePolitics is reporting that one Australian would-be politician is taking an enlightened stance on gaming in general, and especially with respect to censorship. "Censorship is odious because it removes community choice. Censorship says that the thought is the action; that the common person can't distinguish between depiction and actuality... Censorship says, 'Let me decide who talks.' And games are talking. They're talking very loudly, to a great many people, in strong and clear voices. They're speaking in places that have never read a newspaper and in houses which have never listened to politicians. It's okay to be worried by what games are saying. It's okay to disagree. But it's not okay to stifle those voices. It's not okay to kill the game."

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  1. That's good, but... by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the one hand, you're in Australia, where that really needs to be said. On the other hand, you're in Australia, good luck getting the ratings board there to listen to you.

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  2. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...whatever you do, DO NOT USE HIS NAME. Quote him if you must, but again DO NOT USE HIS NAME!

    It's Greg Tannahill, btw.

    1. Re:Well... by philspear · · Score: 3, Funny

      Greg Tannahill SOUNDS like a real name, but telling the electorate that they don't have the right to dictate what videogames you can and can't play DOESN'T sound like a real politician.

      Most of all though, this "Australia" you speak of does not sound like a real place.

  3. Re:Love That Bias by debatem1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry, it would still be enlightened even if it disagreed with yours.

  4. Re:Love That Bias by PC+and+Sony+Fanboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course I'll call someone enlightened that agrees with me. If I don't agree with myself, I'm just calling myself stupid... and I try very hard to avoid being stupid.

    So yes. Biased. But not unexpected.

  5. And if you are wondering... by Wiarumas · · Score: 4, Funny

    And if you are wondering, he is a level 27 gnome Frost Mage on the Anetheron server. His account was banned after some in game threats to a Blizzard dev.

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    1. Re:And if you are wondering... by Dekortage · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mod parent funny. Doubly so if it's true.

      It'd be even funnier if one of his opponents also had a WoW account and they could duke it out online. You could record it and release the highlights. People love entertainment, you know. It'd be a modern gladiator fight.

      Of course, people wouldn't be thrilled about their elected officials playing video games for hours. They're supposed to be dining with lobbyists or something, right?

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  6. Re:Love That Bias by Cheesebisquit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's enlightened because it promotes freedoms rather than restricting them.

  7. Re:Impossible by CrashPoint · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Respect for the individual? He'll never get elected in today's political climate.

    Or yesterday's, or tomorrow's.

  8. Heard an interesting story... by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    from a minister this weekend. When he was a boy he lived in a rural part of Kentucky. There wasn't much to do around there, and video games weren't invented yet, so his brother used to "playfight" in the woods with some of his friends. They would take shotguns and shoot towards each other, making sure they were either out of range of the shotgun, or behind a tree. His brother was "playfighting" when one of his friends misjudged his distance. The results were similar to those of Harry Whittington after hunting with Dick Cheney. The injuries weren't life threatening, just very painful.

    Upon hearing that story I decided that violent video games probably prevent more injury/death than they cause.

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    1. Re:Heard an interesting story... by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Safe handling of a gun usually excludes the act of shooting towards other people for fun.

    2. Re:Heard an interesting story... by Anthony · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Two stories from the seventies in South Australia.

      Kids under twelve sometimes had slug guns, especially those in rural and semi-rural areas.

      One kid told me of slug gun fights they would have, hiding behind logs and taking shots at each other. Once during a "game" one kid stood up and shot just as another poked his head around a tree. He lost an eye.

      Another boy was sitting in his bedroom with his Dad's .22 aiming it all over the place. He then lined up his mum through an open window. She was putting washing out. He pulled the trigger. Why the gun was loaded, noone knew. One shot through the eye killed his mother.

      I myself at about the same age found an uncle's slug gun and despearately tried to find slugs for it. I settled for cocking and firing it unloaded, even though I heard it was not good for it.

      I don't know what guidance these boys had about gun safety. Sometimes it is lost when a bunch of young boys goad each other on.

      Shooting at pixels on a screen sure beats real life for irresponsible boys.

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  9. Respect for the individual? by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Respect for the individual? He'll never get elected in today's political climate.

    People who actually give a shit about individual rights don't seek power over others. By trying to become a politician, he's just another Boromir who thinks he can do good by taking the One Ring.

    1. Re:Respect for the individual? by Sabriel · · Score: 2, Funny

      People who actually give a shit about individual rights don't seek power over others. By trying to become a politician, he's just another Boromir who thinks he can do good by taking the One Ring.

      By that analogy, are you proposing we throw the government into an active volcano?

      Because I don't think that will help.

    2. Re:Respect for the individual? by wellingj · · Score: 3, Funny

      You may think that but I want proof otherwise before we dismiss the idea.

  10. Re:Self filter? by LoofWaffle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure that is the point of the ESRB (regardless of personal opinion about its effectiveness). The biggest problem with the ESRB "tool" is that many (not all) parents either don't understand how to use the tool, don't think that the game content is an issue for their kid, or just don't care.
    Before too long you have a kid kill a bunch of people and if the media determines the kid played violent video games then they sensationalize it. Yet, you never hear the media tell the story of say, LeBron James who grew up playing EA Sports NBA XX and became a great basketball player.

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  11. Re:I look forward by Malekin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't - when that day comes he/she will be just as out of touch with the young people of the time as the caggy old bastards we have now are with our current issues.

  12. Re:Self filter? by Danse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see why most games can't give users the tools to self filter. At that point, it's the parent's responsibility.

    They do. The consoles have parental controls built in. Parents just don't seem to want to bother to use them.

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  13. Re:Self filter? by Original+Replica · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Before too long you have a kid kill a bunch of people and if the media determines the kid played violent video games then they sensationalize it.

    Or the kid listened to Heavy Metal, or played Dungeons and Dragons, or dressed funny and wouldn't stay off my lawn. They never seem to point out the things like "started fights regularly in school" or "had a history of sudden violent outbursts" or "used threats of suicide to manipulate others" or "would mutter angrily to himself while polishing his gun"; but if the kid plays violent video games Watch Out!!!

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  14. Re:Are games really just a depiction? by Tenek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, I would say it's less acceptable to portray a torture scene in a TV show like 24. People get it into their heads that it's ok for government agents to do such things to people. Particularly politicians - see http://www.slate.com/id/2195864/

  15. Just in case you're wondering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The candidate's name is Greg Tannahill he maintains a gaming blog and a political blog.

    Gaming blog: The Dust Forms Words

    Campaign blog: Greg Tannahill for Canberra.

  16. Just a pity... by dakameleon · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... that he's standing for the Democrats; they're one of the saner parties out there with real, considered positions, but their voter base is 1 - 2%, going on the results of the previous election (2007).

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  17. Greg Tannahill's blogs by Arkem+Beta · · Score: 2, Informative

    The candidate's name is Greg Tannahill he maintains a gaming blog and a political blog.
    Gaming blog: The Dust Forms Words
    Campaign blog: Greg Tannahill for Canberra.

  18. Re:Yup, Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope this view is the similar to those held by the majority of the people in power, except for one particular politician in South Australia...

    Unfortunately it requires the approval of the Attorney General of each State to change the classification system for games to the same as that of movies (eg R18+).

    Unless this guy is running in South Australia voting for him isn't going to help in this particular issue.

  19. Gaming fodder by ukepyper · · Score: 2, Informative

    The big problem being addressed here is specific to Australia - in that they do not have an 18+ or R rating. If a game is not suitable for a 16 year old - it's canned on that basis by the censors. Poor.