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EFF Releases Tool For Testing ISP Interference
Placid notes that the EFF has announced Switzerland, a tool for testing if your ISP is interfering with your Net connection (e.g. by resetting BitTorrent transfers). It's command-line only at this point. Of course the tool is FOSS, and you can contribute to it via its SourceForge project. From the announcement: "Developed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Switzerland is an open source software tool for testing the integrity of data communications over networks, ISPs, and firewalls. It will spot IP packets which are forged or modified between clients, inform you, and give you copies of the modified packets."
A dozen Blackberrys are ringing.
Look, Tim. I know it's Saturday but I need you to get to the switching center and shut down project ticktock right away. We're about to have some serious liability issues with it.
After the weekend we can start on a workaround.
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But it's from the Electronic Frontier Foundation! If you can't trust them to be non-evil, who can you trust?
If you can't trust them to be non-evil, who can you trust?
Completely? No one. Not even yourself.
However, it's likely this tool is relatively safe.
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I thought Switzerland was a country!
For the lazy: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=233013
However, it's likely this tool is relatively safe
so, working in the insurance industry too eh?
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Windows are holes in walls or computers.
Switzerland is alpha software. Remarkably, it runs on lots of different operating systems (we've seen it work on Linux, OS X, BSD and Windows XP), but because it's alpha software we can't promise that it's easy to install on all of these operating systems. We're looking for volunteers to help with a Windows installer!
So for those looking for an easy install in Windows, you won't find it yet. Seems like cgywin under Windows XP is indeed the way to go.
Yeah, all tools that do tcpdump/Wireshark-style packet inspection require root (you don't want normal user programs sniffing everything). It's true that it's alpha quality code that does TCP communications, so it's a good idea to not leave it running all the time, and/or wait until a beta version has been released.
A bigger issue is that some of your sniffed packets are sent in the clear to EFF, so 1) it's possible that a third party could sniff those few packets (but it's only a handful of packets, but it could still cause problems, and 2) if you use EFF's server, you have to trust EFF with the handful of sniffed packets you send them (but you can run your own server). It's too complicated to summarize in a few sentences, see the README.txt in the package.
They do say they'll fix the issue that third parties could sniff your packets though (by doing the obvious thing and encrypting them between endpoints), so again, waiting for a later version might be a good idea.
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I thought the code was Python...
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I'm working on a much more straightforward app that will be nearly as accurate on a large scale - it just scans your ip address and matches it against a list of known comcast ip classes - a hit means you're being throttled!
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It is often a bad idea to select a project name that is a common dictionary word. It makes the project almost ungooglable and also dilutes the original meaning of the name -- I wonder if the nation of Switzerland wants to be associated with this piece of software. The global English dictionary namespace isn't running out yet, so we don't need to start reusing words.
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There are a few packages available on the Network Neutrality Squad's website:
(These were mentioned on Slashdot a little while back)
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Debian's not exactly the most trustable team considering they INTRODUCED a bug into what I'd consider the most important to security package there is(OpenSSL).
When the people who are responsible for verifying the security of a package add their own exploit, and nobody finds it for many months of heavy use.. you sort of just tore down your web of trust.
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There are many errors in perspective/context regarding your arguments, and I'll let someone more eloquent than me list all of them. However, the glaring one I want to point out is your reference to the Comcast ruling this past week.
As with anything, there are ups and downs to a ruling... sure, Comcast may start charging by the bit and so forth. However, the big reason the EFF went after them was because they were forging packets, including the RST packets, and otherwise impersonating users on the bittorrent protocol.
The EFF was never saying they can't use traditional QoS on their network... they're saying companies need to reign in "bandwidth hogs" (as you put it) using protocol-agnostic methods, and they certainly shouldn't be forging any traffic.
Full disclosure: I'm a paid, card-carrying member of the EFF. Just gave them another $15 a week ago.
There is a very simple, non-technical argument against all of this. I pay my ISP for a certain amount of bandwidth. This connection is not metered in any way, other than having a limit to the total amount of bandwidth available at any one time. It is an "unlimited" plan. It suited my ISP to offer this deal, and it suited my needs to accept and purchase it. Other users of this ISP have similar if not identitcal arrangements. Whether it's BitTorrent, running an FTP server, real-time video, or whatever, the principle here is that if anything that another unrelated user does can reduce the quality of my connection, then my ISP has failed because they have oversold their capacity. Everything you said about how multiple BitTorrent streams greatly increase the latency of applications like VoIP is quite reasonable, if you are talking about MY bittorrent client causing latency for MY VoIP client, but that is not what we were discussing.
... oh, unless you use an application we don't like, then we'll sanction you" is hypocritical the same way that saying "you have the right to free speech ... oh, unless you say something we don't like" is hypocritical.
Now, if ISPs decide they want to meter their connections (say, by the megabyte or gigabyte), or that they won't carry certain types of traffic, then let them announce this to their customers. If their customers decide they want to continue paying for this, great. If they don't, too bad. But what is happening right now, where ISPs want to sell "unlimited" connections and then surreptitiously place limits on them and screw around with my traffic to conceal the fact that they are overselling their capacity (and/or refuse to upgrade their equipment) is unacceptable. This is unacceptable whether TCP fails to manage this type of network congestion, whether BitTorrent really is a bandwidth hog, whether an RST is a good way to deal with that, blah blah -- you're getting caught up in minutia and missing the real point. Saying "you're free to use this connection as you please
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If they charged by the bit you bet your life they'll charge a lot more than they do now.
Nope. In fact, anywhere I can find a service under a "pay as you go" system, I subscribe to it instead of to the seemingly "cheaper" layered system provided by other companies. And guess what? In all cases I invariably end up paying less monthly than in the cheapest "fixed price" service provided by a competitor, all coupled to an absolutely outstanding service, since it's in the interested of a pay-as-you-go service provider that you use more of its services, not less, so they keep their customer service top notch.
For an example of metering applied to a service which, unlike your examples, are NOT utilities whose prices are heavily regulated by the government, see: american cellular providers.
A bad example. Cellular providers are a regulated market. A company bids for monopolistic rights at a frequency band, wins, and gets to do whatever the hell he wants. Bands are limited in number, thus you can only have a fixed amount of service provider. End result: a cartel, and mafia-level prices.
If anyone could build cellular antennas and tap into a frequency to provide unregulated services, do you really think a situation like this would have developed? It would be trivial to develop a protocol to make such a shared setup work, then open the frequencies to any application. Government got greedy though ("What? To let people use RF without artificial impediments? Without big-friendly-corpTM paying us billions for the privilege? ARE YOU CRAZY?!?"), and the result is what you see.
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