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Miguel De Icaza On Mono, Moonlight, and Gnome
Knuckles writes "Austrian newspaper Der Standard continues its recent series of in-depth interviews with free software developers. This time they sat down with Novell's Vice President of Developer Platform, Miguel de Icaza of Gnome and Mono fame. The interview was conducted at GUADEC (GNOME Users' And Developers' European Conference).
Miguel talks mainly about Mono 2.0 and .Net 3.5 compatibility, enhancing the collaboration with Microsoft over Silverlight ('Moonlight' in Mono), and the larger political situation of Mono and Moonlight. When the interviewer asks whether Moonlight is only validating Silverlight on the web, Miguel gives a quite detailed answer that includes a possibly well-deserved swipe at Mozilla ..."
Miguel De Icaza is a beaner camel jockey chink coon curry-munching darkie dink gook heeb jigaboo junglebunny kike porchmonkey raghead slope spade spic tarbaby NIGGER and should go BACK WHERE HE CAME FROM.
YOU KNOW YOU AGREE WITH ME.
I like Novell and SUSE, but Miguel is generally an ass clown who loves to further himself, not open source, as well as his own aggrandizement
Well golly gee whiz... good for him. He reinvented something else that no one is using and that the initial vendor won't help support (even with his lips tightly wrapped around their ass). What a great technical achievement. Lets all stand up and clap for him shall we. Then maybe he'll shut up and move on to something USEFUL.
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Yep ... bang on. Mono is about as compatible with .Net as JavaScript is with Java. It's a waste of effort in my eyes, but, they can work on whatever they want, doesn't mean I'm ever going to use it.
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etc .NET is a copy of Java, which Microsoft created because Java was cross platform. Why would they ever open .NET, when the goal of .NET was to create a non-portable clone of Java?
Factually inaccurate. Get back under your bridge.
If Microsoft wanted .NET to be Windows-only, why have this dialogue with the Mono developers at all?
(Disclaimer: I'm a Google Summer of Code developer for Mono, and I know Miguel de Icaza in passing; seems like a good, knowledgeable guy who genuinely wants the best for Linux and open-source software.)
"You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time."
What better return?
Novell's business model is "interoperability." Mono will provide a significant level of interoperability between Windows and Linux.
It sure doesn't hurt that C# is a vastly more pleasant language to work with than C++ or Java or Python or any of the other "preferred" free software languages.
99% of open source isn't "innovative", so whining that Mono isn't "innovative" is silly. And Mono definitely fits both your "b" and your "c"; the Mono libraries are very extensive even apart from their implementation of the Base Class Library. Mono.Zeroconf and DBus# are the two that jump to mind immediately; there are a ton more. (And the non-UNIX-specific libraries work on Windows too, giving developers there additional tools.)
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't a valuable tool.
"You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time."
WinForms support is nearing completion; the issues left are primarily issues with the X Window System model (which sucks, and don't even try to deny it) and theming (I know the guy working on theming for Mono's System.Windows.Forms implementation, and he's coming along very quickly).
So...the problem is...what?
Your bridge, it misses its troll. Go back to it.
"You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time."
I would mod you insightful.
If you hate MS for being closed, am I to take it that you hate Apple more as they are even more closed than MS?
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