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prostoalex writes "Most companies would call themselves innovative and would claim they're delivering an above-average service to their customers. Yet, their customers opinions might differ. If you drill a company on their innovation practices, they would probably mention two approaches they employ: 1. Their research department meets with target groups, compiles presentations for the upper management, which then occasionally hands those reports over to the development department. 2. Their research or marketing department comes up with competitive matrix of the products available from competition. In a meeting then, executives see that their product is missing a feature, and hence the development department is assigned the task of adding 'an Internet-enabled installer' to the product, since everybody else offers them, thereby creating market expectations." Read on for the rest of Alex's review. Subject to change author Peter Merholz, Todd Wilkens, Brandon Schauer, David Verba pages 186 publisher O'Reilly rating 7 reviewer Alex Moskalyuk ISBN 9780596516833 summary Creating great products and services for an uncertain world Subject to Change is a book, written by four Adaptive Path veterans describing new approaches to product development and innovation. Who are they to have the authority over the subject? Adaptive Path is a consulting shop helping large and small companies with product design, Web design and industrial design. They're perhaps mostly known to the general public for coining the term AJAX, and articulating the idea of building dynamic Web sites with asynchronous data retrieval, but they certainly didn't invent the technology. Their design experience is behind many products we use today, but due to licensing agreements they're not always at liberty to disclose their customers.

So what do Adaptive Path designers advocate?

Making the design emotional. While the idea itself is not new, this is something that product manufacturers have to face sooner or later. Early Kodak cameras did not succeed because of superior technical qualities or ease of film development — they managed to cross this emotional barrier, where people who previously thought "This is too complicated" after getting a glimpse of the ad or product demo thought "Even I might be able to enjoy this."

Understand people's needs outside of your company-approved usability testing guides. Two great examples provided by the book are Adaptive Path's own usability study of Epinions.com — product review and comparison shopping site. When a woman showed up for usability test with her newborn baby, she was frequently distracted by baby's needs during the test. Bad test candidate? Vice versa. Adaptive Path learned how confusing it could be for someone who needs to get away from the comparison shopping process to come back and quickly realize where they were in the process. Another example has to deal with babies as well — after watching new mothers use the diaper wipes at their homes, Kimberly-Clark researchers redesigned their diaper wipe container to be easily accessible with just one hand.

Make the whole system coherent, not just patch new interfaces throughout product holes. Financial companies and banks certainly suffer from a desire by single group to innovate the others out. My own example — I go to Fidelity Web site, and upon login offered to also check my NetBenefits(SM) or check out the FullView(R). Now, there might be customers who think in those terms, but I surely did not log in to check NetBenefits(SM) or do FullView(R) or check out mySmart Cash Account (SM), I just wanted to find out how my investments were doing. A simple graph would do. Yet my options from Fidelity are either downloading quarterly PDF account statements, and then punching the numbers to create a graph, or going to Account Positions page, where I can view the graphs for every single stock and bond I own for any time value except the time span that I need — from the day I bought the security to today. This is not a rant on Fidelity Investments in general, this is just another example of different groups within the company handling such things as stocks, bonds, retirement planning, cash investments, quarterly account reports, and Web site design. Each group probably doesn't think highly of the existing user interface, and hence the desire to introduce that new simple interface, call it a different name, and expect the customers to get on with a program and use it.

The authors provide a lot of good case studies for design successes and failures to support their point. Case studies are borrowed from outside literature or told in first person — Adaptive Path's customer names are changed to be KeyboardCo or FinanceCo to protect the innocent. The book explores several different permutations of design and relevance:

When design is great, and product is relevant, market success is a given. The example is Apple iPod series. Somewhat less known example is Google Calendar, that outgrew Yahoo! Calendar and MSN Calendar, even though all 3 calendars are tied into Web-based e-mails, and Yahoo! and Hotmail both have market shares multiple of Gmail's.

When design is great, but product is not relevant, market success will be extremely hard to achieve. Segway scooter and Apple G4 Cube come to mind.

When design is bad, but product is relevant, market success will quickly turn into failure as competitors copy the product and invest in design. Diamond Rio, the pioneer of digital music player industry, learned a hard lesson that way.

When design is bad, and the product is irrelevant, it's possible it will never even come out in the market. Adaptive Path's own example of KeyboardCo wanting to implement a downloadable music service right on the keyboard is a good example of this.

Overall the book is informative and inspirational, albeit a bit dry. Chapter 7, dedicated to describing agile approach in software development, seems to be out of place. Maybe it's because I am a software engineer, and have familiarized myself on various development methodologies, the chapter was old news to me, or maybe it's the idea that you're being sold one specific methodology, instead of implementing dozens of small improvements within the product development process, that threw me off.

On page 162 the authors claim "Google and Yahoo!, once technology companies, are now media players, and their advertising-based business models mean they compete more with Los Angeles and New York than their Silicon Valley brethren." Now, I don't see how being a media company leads one to compete with a US municipality. Maybe they meant "New York [Times|Post] and Los Angeles [Times]", in which case it's time to look for another proofreader. But to be fair, I haven't noticed any glaring errors or omissions in the title.

Subject to Change is a good book to read if you're into product development or design. If you're staying abreast of the industry trends, most of it is probably not going to be big news to you, nevertheless, it's a good collection of case studies and a summary of rules relevant for modern-day product development.

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65 comments

  1. Seems fairly obvious by rockout · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me, or is there a lot of "well, yeah, duh!" reaction to the approaches this book seems to suggest?

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    1. Re:Seems fairly obvious by topham · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A lot of what a consultant says is Obvious. But coming from an Expert will be listened to when coming from an employee it won't.

      It's the nature of how people filter information, if it comes from an authority they will give it greater value, regardless of it's inherent value.

    2. Re:Seems fairly obvious by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      See, The Art of War.

      That said, this book is probably tripe.

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    3. Re:Seems fairly obvious by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      It is often the case that things are obvious to outsiders. That's what therapists do (or good friends). They look at the patient's problems from the outside. Or Dr. Phil... he can tell you what you NEED to hear instead what you want to hear. He'll say "stop making excuses" when all someone wants to do is make excuses. Similarly, some people will go to the gym, bumble around a bit and quit because they aren't getting the instant results they wanted. Having a trainer to guide, motivate and hold you accountable helps a great deal.

      Within an organization there is a neurotic assumption that an employee's opinions/ideas are worth what they pay that person. If it comes from someone at 10$/hr, it's assumed to be rubbish. From a 30$/hr person, it MUST be good, or at least better. Then there is the myth of expertise; that only experts should be allowed to speak on a subject.

      BTW, steer clear of analrapists. No matter how it's pronounced, they're bad news.

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    4. Re:Seems fairly obvious by squidfood · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or is there a lot of "well, yeah, duh!" reaction to the approaches this book seems to suggest?

      Some of it is also a tautology. When is a product successful? When it is relevant. But how do you know if a product is relevant? You see if it's successful.

      But let's not confuse PHBs with words like "tautology."

    5. Re:Seems fairly obvious by triathlon4life · · Score: 1

      "A lot of what a consultant says is Obvious. But coming from an Expert will be listened to when coming from an employee it won't" This is my new witty signature. I think I will follow it up with, 'Executives are mindless amoeba'

    6. Re:Seems fairly obvious by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      A lot of what a consultant says is Obvious. But coming from an Expert will be listened to when coming from an employee it won't.

      I couldn't agree more. A good example of this is the use of FOSS. I've sang that song to mgmt countless times, in which is always goes unheard...but as soon as our company's business consultant says that we should use FOSS software, all of a sudden mgmt is scrambling to implement it...*sigh*.

    7. Re:Seems fairly obvious by Atrox666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most executives that I've met have only a tenuous grasp of the obvious.

    8. Re:Seems fairly obvious by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

      Obvious things are often the hardest to see.

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  2. Drill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'To drill' means 'to practice' when it doesn't involve punching holes in something with some auger-like tool. Perhaps you meant 'grill'?

  3. Film at 10 by edittard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Film at 10. Or 11. Whatever.

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  4. it is called metonymy by rsw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and their advertising-based business models mean they compete more with Los Angeles and New York than their Silicon Valley brethren

    People often use "Silicon Valley" to mean "technology companies," and you have no trouble understanding that they mean the latter as opposed to some geographical region. The same is true of New York and Los Angeles in the above. "New York" alludes to big business (think: New York Stock Exchange), and Los Angeles to big media (think: Hollywood).

    No offense, but you shouldn't be writing book reviews if you can't parse the writing.

    1. Re:it is called metonymy by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "New York" alludes to big business (think: New York Stock Exchange)...

      I think here it refers to the traditional advertising business (usually metonymized as "Madison Avenue").

    2. Re:it is called metonymy by MarcoG42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, you're saying he should have read what was *meant*, as opposed to what was *written*? I don't know why more people don't do that. /me rolls eyes

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    3. Re:it is called metonymy by prostoalex · · Score: 0

      Hey, thanks for the clarification, but the complete sentence is still incongruous.
      So "Silicon Valley brethren" is metonymy then for Redwood City, Palo Alto and Cupertino?

    4. Re:it is called metonymy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's pretty clear. He's saying that Google and Yahoo!, while once primarily technology companies, are now primarily advertising companies. As advertising companies, they now compete more with the advertising companies in NY and LA (traditional advertising strongholds) than they do with the more technology-oriented companies located in the Bay Area.

    5. Re:it is called metonymy by drfireman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Happy to help. The reason is illiteracy. Figurative speech and writing is quite common, and people who insist on seeing only the "literal" meaning (a nebulous concept to anyone who has studied language from any perspective) are basically illiterate. Roll your eyes all you like, the quoted material contained a perfectly fine (and very pedestrian) use of figurative writing, and the reviewer inexplicably tried to read it literally. I personally think it was just a bit of brainlock, but I could be wrong.

    6. Re:it is called metonymy by mmurphy000 · · Score: 0

      I disagree with you and agree with the GP — the quoted phrase was poorly written. If I were tech-reviewing the book, it would have gotten a bunch of red ink.

      People often use "Silicon Valley" to mean "technology companies," and you have no trouble understanding that they mean the latter as opposed to some geographical region.

      Mostly because there is no city named "Silicon Valley", to the best of my knowledge, and so is less likely to be a source for confusion.

      The same is true of New York and Los Angeles in the above.

      No, it's not.

      There is a city named Los Angeles. There is a city named New York. There is no city named Silicon Valley. If you want parallelism, "Madison Avenue" is the nickname for New York's collection of marketing and advertising firms. I'm not quite sure what the corollary would be for LA -- "Hollywood", perhaps, though I'm not sure it fits the context.

      Had the quote been: "and their advertising-based business models mean they compete more with Madison Avenue than with their Silicon Valley brethren", it would have passed muster with me as an editor. Had the quote been: "and their advertising-based business models mean they compete more with firms in Los Angeles and New York than with their Silicon Valley brethren", it would have passed muster with me as well.

      As written, though, the expression lacks parallelism, and is missing a "with", and would have warranted editing, IMHO.

    7. Re:it is called metonymy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, if we're going to go all semantic-nazi on the book author, maybe we should start picking away at the review as well. For example, in paragraph 5, the reviewer makes it clear he doesn't understand what 'vice versa' means, while in paragraph 13 he rips the author a new one for not proofreading carefully enough.

    8. Re:it is called metonymy by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Well, using the name of a city in place of the types of businesses a city has is a bit of synecdoche. It's clear enough to a native speaker, and there is context in the particular sentence to boot. However, it's quite possible someone other than a native speaker of English could miss the subtlety. Perhaps someone with such difficulty should reconsider calling for additional proofreading, though.

    9. Re:it is called metonymy by pthisis · · Score: 1

      Well, using the name of a city in place of the types of businesses a city has is a bit of synecdoche. It's clear enough to a native speaker, and there is context in the particular sentence to boot. However, it's quite possible someone other than a native speaker of English could miss the subtlety.

      I hope you're not suggesting that we should avoid using literate English in a full-length book so that people with a minimal grasp of the language can understand everything.

      In road signs or medicine instructions, limiting the language to simple sentences with a 5th-grade vocabulary may make sense. In a book, artful and expressive use of English is often one of the primary goals.

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    10. Re:it is called metonymy by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      Why should we remove all color from our language because someone might misunderstand it? Anyway, I'm tired of the non-native speaker dodge - People do the city as industry center thing everywhere - Dubai, Milan, Tokyo, Singapore, Stockholm, Zurich.

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    11. Re:it is called metonymy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to be ESL. Even a native English speaker could have problems understanding if they are not from the US.

    12. Re:it is called metonymy by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      In the particular example here, I'd avoid that usage because it introduces localisation issues. The association with Silicon Valley is clear to pretty much any English speaker in the target audience, but the associations with Los Angeles and New York are less likely to be understood by a non-US reader.

      In my book, and in any of my articles, I try to avoid dialect or regional uses that will make comprehension more difficult for people not in a specific geographical region. There are lots of examples in US English where the same phrase has a different meaning to Commonwealth English, and using these is likely to make it harder for non-US readers to understand the phrase.

      Quite frankly, I'd expect better from a company trying to convince me that they are user interface experts. Metaphors can be very locale-specific (consider the owl, as a canonical example) and should only be used when there is context-independent way of understanding them.

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    13. Re:it is called metonymy by Pope · · Score: 1

      The owls are not what they seem.

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    14. Re:it is called metonymy by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying anything about enforcing a standard of literal text. I'm just pointing out that there are valid reasons someone from another culture, language, or region might not immediately understand certain figures of speech without being generally illiterate.

      If someone is writing for a narrow audience, then making the text accessible to everyone has little point. If the author was trying to make that sentence clear to everyone who understands literal English, it obviously didn't work. It's a balance between colorful, nuanced language and being clear to a wide enough audience.

      The author was likely writing for native Anglophones who are generally familiar with the major business hubs of the United States. Making the reading more enjoyable for that audience may limit the understanding of people outside that audience. Where that balance is struck is up to the author and editor.

      I firmly believe that most everything in life is a tradeoff of some sort. Figurative writing is only specific incarnation of a general rule.

  5. ive read this before... by nimbius · · Score: 1, Insightful

    its called dilbert.

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    1. Re:ive read this before... by swb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or "How I spent $50,000 on an MBA and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

  6. So, in other words, be like Apple by caywen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think product teams tend to have an inferiority complex that is fed by the worst marketing invention ever: the feature matrix on the back of the box. Not enough product teams care about anything else.

  7. Right here, on this company? by SleptThroughClass · · Score: 1

    "If you drill a company ..."
    Drill here, drill now.

    1. Re:Right here, on this company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! No! NO!!

      Just inflate your tires.

    2. Re:Right here, on this company? by phoneteller · · Score: 0

      Hire Paris Hilton to drill a hole, she said so in yesterday's video about Sir McCain.

    3. Re:Right here, on this company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that you weren't modded "+5, Insightful" proves slashdot is racist.

  8. please define your terms .. by rs232 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Most companies don't innovate as anything new is liable to disrupt the market. That's why the auto industry accted to supress Preston Tucker, and the PC industry acted to suppress the netPC and any othere embedded devices that would challenge their monopoly ..

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    1. Re:please define your terms .. by HardCase · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      True...and how about that guy who invented the carburetor that could get a hundred miles to the gallon? The oil industry "took care" of the problem!

  9. NY and LA by jsailor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Now, I don't see how being a media company leads one to compete with a US municipality. Maybe they meant "New York [Times|Post] and Los Angeles [Times]"

    perhaps they are referring to the fact that NYC and LA are the centers of the advertising and media industries.

  10. how is school going? by fishbowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like somebody has gotten through their first year of business school, and is on a high where they think they know stuff that others don't.

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  11. The Art of Engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A similar video worth watching would be James Dyson's (Dyson vacuum guy) lecture at MIT on good design.

    http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/362/

    The main "obvious" lesson that I took from it was that people are willing to pay more for a product that is better designed

  12. So most companies are like Lake Woebegone... by grandpa-geek · · Score: 1

    ... where all the children are above average.

    1. Re:So most companies are like Lake Woebegone... by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      ... would claim they're ... delivering ... an above-average ... service ... to their customers

      The full quote is '... would claim they're committed to delivering you a pleasant experience, and are experiencing an above-average call volume for customer service, so please hold while they do the best to be fair to their customers who have already been waiting.'

      And since I always get that when I call their customer service, how come they can still claim it's 'above' average?

    2. Re:So most companies are like Lake Woebegone... by grandpa-geek · · Score: 1

      My quote is from Garrison Keillor's description of Lake Woebegone on the radio program "Prairie Home Companion". (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Prairie_Home_Companion)

      My full quote is "... where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average".

      If you consider the quote from the article you realize that NO companies are below average. To be statistically more precise, the absolutely amazing and mathematically prestidigitating fact is that no companies are below the median (50th percentile).

      The one thing I left out of my comment was this :-)

  13. Re:you call this 'weather'? by aeskdar · · Score: 0

    TLDR

  14. It is actually called Monotony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because whenever corporate Amerika, especially tech companies, claims they're developing something innovative, they're actually just giving us the same old re-hashed bullshit... AKA putting lipstick on a pig.

    1. Re:It is actually called Monotony by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      I prefer open source style innovation - take what corporate America created, copy it, and give it away.

  15. Until Reality Steps in and... by mpapet · · Score: 1

    Buggers up absolutely everything discussed. Let's look closer....

    Making the design emotional.
    There is very little emotion to evoke if, like most projects, you are using canned widgets. This is where paper prototyping makes up for the limits of your widget/gui set.

    Understand people's needs outside of your company-approved usability testing guides.
    If you have such a thing in your organization chances are excellent innovation is pretty much crushed like an ant anyway.

    Make the whole system coherent, not just patch new interfaces throughout product holes
    With what resources? Getting a new GUI into an annual release cycle is.... unlikely, especially if it is design by committee. I'm being charitable phrasing it like that.

    When design is great, and product is relevant, market success is a given
    This is such a poisonous statement, so much so I don't know where to begin. It just has to be **GOOD ENOUGH.** Combine ruthless sales tactics, aggressive litigation against your direct competitors, and a huge advertising/promotion budget with a good-enough product and you'll probably have a winner.

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  16. KeyboardCo by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

    When design is bad, and the product is irrelevant, it's possible it will never even come out in the market. Adaptive Path's own example of KeyboardCo wanting to implement a downloadable music service right on the keyboard is a good example of this.

    It's not clear from the review whether "KeyboardCo" is in the business of selling digital pianos, or QWERTY computer peripherals. If the latter, then yes, K-Co's idea was patently absurd.

    If the former, it sounds like it just might work.

    1. Re:KeyboardCo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KeyboardCo sells computer peripherals... in which case yes, a music service is a damn silly idea. For a Yamaha keyboard, I'd much rather download MIDI than MP3. Remember, google is your friend, and googling before posting usually prevents you from embarassing yourself.

  17. As Mr. Natural always said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (with his index finger pointed straight up as a gesture of authority)

    "Twas ever thus."

  18. What a coincidence... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Didn't we just talk about rogue game programmers leaving stiff companies because of their lack of innovation?

  19. Some thoughts by fermion · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First, a firm has to make money. At some point during the first years the firm has decide what the so-called core business is that will generate a profit. For google, that is advertising. The search technology is there to get clicks for advertising, just like the stories in a newspaper is there to get people to read the ads in the newspaper. This is why the newspaper are so pissed of at Google. It is not so much a copyright thing as a stealing advertising thing.

    Honestly if this was a major point in the book, then the authors have missed the whole deal, and are certainly part of the problem, A business has to provide a service that the public will directly or indirectly pay for, while the customers who create the profit are those that need to be served. Additionally, restrictive models create short term firms.

    So, where are these people not part fo the solution. First, kodak, like so many other companies, in business to sell consumables. Not really an optics firm like Nikon. Consumables go, they fall with it. But they succeeded not by making things emotional, but by focusing on customers needs rather than being a slave to the tech. Kodaks fall was forestalled by several years with the introduction of the arguably inferior advantix film, that gave people the simplicity they want with enough quality.

    This then leads to usability. Even now Kodak focuses more on usability, leaving the whiz bang stuff to others. So does Apple. The Old G4 cases had handles. The on switch is up front or on the keyboard, so you don't have to look around. But usability is a compromise, and like the G4, people were no so concerned about that usability issue to buy it instead of cheap PC.

    So product design is about meeting customers needs and profitability. These are not always the same thing. My bank now puts in interstitials and other adverts when I am logged into my account. These have not only security implications, but reduce the usability of the site. However, the site needs to make a profit, and I have a free account, so this is what they do. Every design issue costs money, not only to build, but also ancillary earning opportunities. The person using the service is not always the primary customer, i.e. profit generating entity.

    The dot com boom shows that no product, no matter how cool or well designed, hangs around if a profit is not earned. Buzz word compliance, like AJAX, is not enough. Apple, or Kodak, or Sony, hangs around because it finds good compromises in design. The same holds for MS, though I think if they don't get a bit schizophrenic about the core business they may have issues.

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  20. "Innovation" by oldhack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The buzzword of the day for business school crowd, guess it's catching up with "leadership" - the vague, abstract, nebulous, infinitely debatable notions that the intellectually weak and dishonest obsess over. Ok, I'll stop the rant here.

    How about scratching the itches and fixing the bugs? Just by doing these you may come across many small but significant enlightenments, instead of trying to "think out of the box" and to "innovate". This bit is a suggestion, not a rant.

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  21. Anyone notice.... by kaizendojo · · Score: 1
    That this is the second mention in a day on /. for Adaptive Path? Aurora Firefox concept was created by them.

    So I guess real innovation is powered by /.

  22. It's not for you, it's for Web 2.0 Doofuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm all for it. There are plenty of Web 2.0 doofuses whose entire belief system revolves around the idea that they are on the razor edge of business and development innovation.

    To get through to these people with business, design and development "101" concepts, you have to have it come from someone they respect and be wrapped up as something new to suit their worldview.

  23. Cough *bs* Cough by micromuncher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "When design is great, and product is relevant, market success is a given."

    Whoa. Is that why Windows took over the world? I'm sure there are thousands of great, relevant products that did not see the light of day because the creators/distributors of those products did not have good market access; whether it be financial where-with-all to promote a product, entrenched competition, monopolies or what-not.

    "Build it and they will come" usually fails. 9/10 companies fail. I'm sure this applies to products, that je ne sais quoi about a great product that you really need but just don't want it enough.

    Saying Rio made the market and iPod took it because of the design obviates the incredible marketting campaign Apple had that still sticks in people's memory (siloutted dancing headphone

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    1. Re:Cough *bs* Cough by jofny · · Score: 1

      Whoa. Is that why Windows took over the world?

      Pretty much. Compare Windows to its competition when it took over the world, not its competition after.

    2. Re:Cough *bs* Cough by HaveNoMouth · · Score: 1
      Interesting analogy and a good point.

      Let's imagine some big, staid, boring corporation (like, say, GM) introduces a new product tomorrow. It's called the "Wheelfoot". It's a two-wheeled rolling platform and it carries you where you need to go quickly, without walking.

      Obviously it's very much like the Segway. But there are a few differences:

      • It doesn't have as good a user interface as the Segway. It's usable, but it certainly doesn't have that "man/machine mind-meld" thing going on that the Segway does. And it never will.
      • It's not as reliable as the Segway. It tends to just stop for no reason about once a day, leaving the user stranded. Sometimes you can reboot it and be on your way, but often you have to call a friend to pick you up and take the Wheelfoot in to the repair shop.
      • It can go twice as far on a charge as the Segway (when it works).
      • GM has licensed the hardware so you can buy Wheelfoots from multiple, competing vendors. But they all work basically the same way and run the GM user interface. This makes business customers very happy because they don't have to deal with single-vendor lock-in for the hardware, and even though only GM supplies the design and the software, GM is a nice, stable blue-chip company that no PHB will be fired for recommending.
      • Upgrade and add-on hardware is readily available from a variety of vendors.
      • The Wheelfoot runs a little faster than the Segway. Not much--just a little. But you can also overclock it and make it go twice as fast, which is impossible with the Segway.
      • The Wheelfoot costs 1/4 the price of the Segway.

      Now, is the Wheelfoot still as irrelevant as the Segway? Which product--if either--ends up taking over the world?

      (Note: I'm not suggesting above that the Mac cost 4 times as much as a Windows machine when Windows came out. Or ever. Don't take the analogy that literally.)

  24. R&D Department(s)? by PPH · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Separate research and development departments? And then there's customer engineering, maintenance, etc., etc.

    The successful firms I've worked for rotated everyone through these tasks. Some of us had multiple responsibilities at one time. That way, new technologies, customer requirements, bug fixes and everything had an equal probability of propagating through the design/build cycle.

    Woe to the pure research geeks who tossed an incomplete idea over the wall and figured that tech support would deal with its shortcomings. Odds are next week, they'd be handling the irate customers. And we had no time for an engineer who didn't want to go down to the shop or out in the field with a construction crew to solve a problem.

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  25. Mr. TROLL: please define your terms .. by rs232 · · Score: 1

    "True...and how about that guy who invented the carburetor that could get a hundred miles to the gallon? The oil industry "took care" of the problem!"

    Where did Preston Tucker ever claim his car could get a hundred miles to the gallon?

    "Subject to Change is a book, written by four Adaptive Path veterans describing new approaches to product development and innovation"

    Product development never leads or encourages 'innovation', as it has to go by what's already in the market place, as such it is reactive and retrograde. For instance adding email, music and a camera to a mobile phone could never be called innovative.

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  26. RL Never in market Example by tillerman35 · · Score: 1

    When design is bad, and the product is irrelevant, it's possible it will never even come out in the market.

    NCR invested a crapload of money to design an internet browser that went in your fridge door. Yes, right there next to the ice dispenser. Why? NOBODY knew, not even the insane genius who took time off from scribbling quantum mechanics equations on his padded cell's walls with purple crayon to invent this thing. I think they might have actually shipped a couple, but I doubt it was enough to qualify as "coming out in the market."

  27. Re:Mr. TROLL: please define your terms .. by HardCase · · Score: 1

    Wow, I see that the /. gullibility meter is pegged this week!

    The magic carburetor. You guys are wound a little too tight.

    BTW, my name is not Mr. TROLL, it's Mr. SARCASM. But you can call me "Hardcase".

  28. Re: Mr. STRAWMAN: please define your terms .. by rs232 · · Score: 1

    'BTW, my name is not Mr. TROLL, it's Mr. SARCASM. But you can call me "Hardcase"'

    How about Mr. Strawman instead .. :)

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  29. Re: Mr. STRAWMAN: please define your terms .. by HardCase · · Score: 1

    Some people just don't get it...