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Massachusetts Sues to Halt Defcon Subway Hacking Talk

According to CNET, "The state of Massachusetts has asked a federal judge for a temporary restraining order preventing three MIT students from giving a presentation on Sunday about hacking smartcards used in the Boston subway system." It'll be interesting to see whether Dutch-style openness or Soviet-style secrecy prevails in Las Vegas. Update: 08/09 20:57 GMT by T : "Too late," says reader Bluey: "Injunction was already granted."

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  1. Too late by Bluey · · Score: 5, Informative

    It'll be interesting to see whether Dutch-style openness or Soviet-style secrecy prevails in Las Vegas.

    Injuction was already granted. Insert Soviet joke here.

  2. Re:Ron Rivest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    He was their professor. Their research was done as a part of a class taught by Rivest.

  3. Re:oh good... let's all bury our heads... by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not to mention, this should be an open and shut freedom of speech issue. I mean, you can publish how to make a silenced weapon, probably even how to make a nuclear device...how to assasinate someone even, things with are illegal to do for real in meatspace, but, printing HOW to do it so far, has been ruled as free speach.

    I'd think giving a talk about it would be a slam dunk. If they rule against this, then it is really scary that our first amendment is gonna be in jeopardy. So far...describing how to do many things without inciting anyone to do it..as been protected speech.

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    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
  4. Re:oh good... let's all bury our heads... by crl620 · · Score: 5, Informative

    MIT's student newspaper put the "banned" slides online: http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N30/subway/Defcon_Presentation.pdf

  5. Re:"Congress shall make no law..." by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, this is the State of Massachusetts, not Congress...

    They already fixed that loophole

    "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

  6. If I tell you how to hack the DC transit system... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I tell you how to hack the DC transit system right here in this post, will DC issue an injunction to have slashdot remove the post? Let's find out!

    In the DC system, you have to scan your card to get into and out of every station. Rather than having standard boarding fares like NY, it actually takes into account where you scanned in and where you scanned out and then deducts the appropriate amount for the fare between those two points at the time you scan out.

    But say you leave the same station you entered. Maybe you missed your train and decided to take a cab, or forgot something, or got a call and changed your plans, or just want to rip off the DC transit system. Whatever. You always have to scan a card to get out, and if you scan the same card, it doesn't let you out for free, but charges you a minor fee. I think it was $0.25.

    So, say you have a standard commute to work and back every day on the DC transit system:
    Go into your point of departure and buy two cards, one with the appropriate fare to your destination. Swipe both of them in.
    Ride to your point of departure. Swipe the exact fare card out and throw it away.
    Go about your business at your destination. When you return:
    Buy a new card and swipe it in.
    Ride to your point of origin and Swipe OUT the card you only swiped IN at the same point earlier. You just rode there for $0.25.
    The next day, swipe that same card in at the same station. Ride to your point of departure, and swipe out with the card you bought at that point yesterday. Another $0.25 trip.
    Always continue to scan in and out at the same station using the same card. Every trip between those stations will be $0.25.

    There is no expiration on how much time may pass between swiping in and out of the same station for the minimum fee. There is nothing set up to catch that one card is swiped in and out of the same station every day about 9 hours apart, while another card is swept in and out of another station about 15 hours apart. At least, not unless they've fixed it in the past few years.

    Obviously, buy the cards you use for this with cash, not a credit card.

    If you really want to be a cheap skate, quadruple your money also. Then all repeat rides in the system will be priced at approximately $0.07 each.

  7. Re:Two problems by gv250 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anybody got a link to the actual TRO?).

    the actual TRO