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Moving Beyond Passwords For Security

Naturalist writes with an excerpt from a New York Times story about the need for a more secure method for identification than the password-based system almost everyone currently uses. The article also discusses the weaknesses of the OpenID initiative to simplify the process. "The solution urged by the experts is to abandon passwords -- and to move to a fundamentally different model, one in which humans play little or no part in logging on. Instead, machines have a cryptographically encoded conversation to establish both parties' authenticity, using digital keys that we, as users, have no need to see. ...OpenID offers, at best, a little convenience, and ignores the security vulnerability inherent in the process of typing a password into someone else's Web site. Nevertheless, every few months another brand-name company announces that it has become the newest OpenID signatory."

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  1. OpenID and Multi-Factor Authentication by master_runner · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although the password is still there, many OpenID providers are moving towards advanced multi-factor authentication. For example, when I (or anyone else) attempt to log in to my OpenID account, the account provider calls my cellular phone. I must answer the call and confirm (by pressing the # key) in order to log in. This means that in order for an intruder to gain access to my account, they must have my password and my mobile phone, and if anyone else tries to log in to my account the unexpected call will alert me to this fact. I also know that other OpenID providers support the hardware key popularized by PayPal that generates a one-time password for each login. Other OpenID providers (including mine) support authentication via SSL certificates. There's a whole range of alternative and multi-factor authentication schemes offered by today's OpenID providers, and over time more and more methods are being introduced. OpenID allows users to choose an authorization service based on the security that they offer rather than based on what website they want to log in to.

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  2. Re:"Beyond Passwords" by LO0G · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're right. It IS a password. And it doesn't matter.

    The PIN is a password that unlocks the smart card. In order to authenticate with the remote server, you need both the PIN and the smart card.

    It's called two factor authentication. There are essentially 3 types of authenticators:
    1) What you know (a password)
    2) What you have (a key or a smart card)
    3) What you are (fingerprint or retina scan).

    Most web sites use one factor authentication - their security depends only on what you know (your password).

    The primary attack that's involved here is an attacker attempting to guess/steal your password to a remote site. All they need to know is your password and they're in. And they can take your authentication information and use it from any machine on the internet - thus they can sell your identity and make money from that.

    With a smartcard/pin combination they need both the PIN (what you know) and the smartcard (what you have). The PIN is totally useless to the attacker unless they also have the smartcard.

    Adding the second factor to the authentication system does move "beyond passwords".

  3. I actually use a smartcard every day by pointbeing · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work for an agency under DoD and have had what they call a Common Access Card (CAC) for more than three years.

    Leaving my CAC at home has never happened to me but I imagine the experience would be fairly uncomfortable as the CAC is also used for building access - someone would have to sign me into the facility if I forgot my smartcard. I don't imagine I'd have to be embarrassed that way more than eight or ten times for it to sink in that I need to keep my smartcard with me ;-)

    Humans (at least most adult humans) are conditioned to carry their driver's license with them when they operate a vehicle so learning to carry a smartcard with you wouldn't be all that difficult. To address the issue of requiring a keyboard and display (and a smartcard reader) there are contactless smartcards available and I *think* the technology's compact enough to include in a cell phone or other device.

    IM frequently less than HO physical security will always be paramount - a physical token requires a user to have both the token and the PIN to that token to access a protected resource. In this agency there have been a few misplaced smartcards but there hasn't been one instance of a protected resource compromised because a bad guy had both the user's CAC and the PIN to it.

    People tend to write down "what they know" if it's fairly complex - which compromises physical security. All I have to remember is an eight character PIN. My PC will lock my CAC after three unsuccessful PIN entries, which requires me to visit the card issuer to have my PIN reset.

    All in all it's been fairly secure and easy to use. The transition to smartcards hasn't been completely painless but these days I use the card for building access (I have access to the raised floor area in the basement), to the network (smartcard authentication to the network is mandatory), to secure websites hosted on the network that use CAC authentication and to government-only applications that ping your smartcard to see if you're supposed to be running that application.

    All in all it's been a pretty good thing and I was originally one of the naysayers on the project.

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