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What Should I Do With My Tech Junk?
Thomas Matysik writes "I'm attempting to de-clutter my house and I've hit a rough patch: the computer room. I've got a bunch of wires, hardware and software that (I think) were useful at one point in time, but these days it doesn't do much more than take up space. Selling it seems like it'd be a huge hassle and it seems really wasteful for me to just pitch all of this stuff in the dumpster. I've considered giving it away to Goodwill, but I'm afraid that's not the right sort of outlet for this stuff. My question: what should I do with all of my tech junk?"
Compared to even today's bargain hardware, stuff 5-6 years old doesn't even have the processor power to justify the electricity/waste heat/noise.
You have to be a total moron to use old computers for distributed computing. The amount of electricity you waste and heat you generate is ridiculous considering you can replicate the computing power of dozens of older systems with a single new box which uses the same amount of electricity as a single node of the old systems.
Sure, there's something to be said for using them as an educational tool, but again, you're still better off getting a newer high powered box and just running a virtualization environment on it to mess around with distributed parallel computing environments.
Ive been working on computers since i was 12 (im 21) and 50% of everything i learned has been from computers people gave me. :( )
I think one of the most beneficiary things you could do is put an add in the paper for some kid to come and take it. Especially if its routers/switches, mobiles devices. You could give someone the chance to learn from equipment that they cant afford to buy (or their parents). I know that myself getting stuff like that helped me get the IT job i have today. And Every chance i get I try to pawn my computer 'junk' off on a kiddy so he has a chance to mess around with different technology. Some of the things I always liked to get:
- Sparc Stations (non PC platforms are like tech pr0n)
- routers/switches (anything to connected computers together, token ring? i never got any of that
-scsi (een if its old, its still the whole point, an old scsi storage unit, or tape drives)
- laptops, PDAs, (always fun to have)
- odd systems (486DX with Overdrive(R) technology) Even the old computers are still fun (386 with scsi ?)
- old servers (especially)
the plus side to this, is then you dont hav to worry about throwing it away, and you'll be Serving a full portion to a kids appetite for knowledge. Hope this helps
Which is precisely why you see so much illegal dumping in areas where the local or state government tries to enforce pay-to-recycle schemes.
It's Human Nature; People will gladly recycle if they can just leave it by the curb to be picked up. But if they have to take time out of their busy days (and really, who isn't incredibly busy anymore?) to drive their old whatever down to the designated recycling center, make sure it is sorted properly by type and/or material, lug it from the car into the center and possibly stand in line waiting to have it taken, then they find they have to pay? Nope, most folks will either try and hide the "recyclable" junk in with the rest of the trash, find a lonely country road and dump it in the ditch, or in the case of old PC stuff, simply hang onto it for a stupily long amount of time.
This happened in microcosm in my area. A local upscale township tried to enforce a pay-to-recycle program on it's residents. Just to be clear, these were the local semi-wealthy. Tenured College Professors, Doctors, Lawyers, Businessmen and Executives. Well educated and active citizens. Not your stereotypical poor slouches from crapsville who don't know jack about recycling. The town used to just take everything, and had no recycling plan. Pressure from local activists to start a recycling initiative and some newly elected leftist town government members pushed through the pay-to-recycle scheme and law against NOT recycling. Within a week of the new plan and law illegal dumping and incidents of recyclables mixed in with the regular trash skyrocketed through the roof. People were simply unwilling to take the time and pay the extra money to bother with recycling. Even in the face of potentially large fines. This went on for well over a year, and only escalated over time.
The township tried making everyone switch to clear plastic garbage bags, so that the garbagemen could see if there were recyclables. People just put the recyclables inside white kitchen garbage bags or paper bags and then put those in the clear bags. Or they ignored the clear bag law and continued using black plastic bags. The town offered to give people special recycling bins and to take the recycling away for them for a monthly fee (read: special tax) THAT went over like a lead balloon at the next town meeting.
Eventually the outcry from the residents and from the garbagemans union (about being forced to become "garbage cops") forced the town to rework it's plan. They made a deal with the local recycling company: The town recieved special recycling bins from the recyling company, and then distributed those to the residents at no additional charge. They then set up a special team of recycling trucks (re-purposed garbage trucks) that just collected recyclables from the bins, and would then take them to the center. The private recycler took care of sorting and recycling the junk. In the end, the town ended up turning a small profit after about a year due to the large amount of recyclables turned in at the private recycling company. Illegal dumping dropped off to the minimal level it was at before the forced pay-to-recycle plan, and most of the surrounding towns, including my own, have adopted the same type of plan. Why not? It works.
Oh, and the morons that thought up the stupid pay-to-recycle scheme? Voted out of office the next election cycle. Ain't Karma grand?
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If the machine runs,ask you local churches if anyone needs a free PC. I just gave away a 366MHz Celeron running dual boot DSL and Win98SE and there is a single mom out there whose kid is doing his homework on it using DSL. I have run into several folks whom I have given computers to over the years and they are still running quite happily,though they have usually passed through a few hands by then. You can also use the Open Office Wizard to take any old machine with DSL or Puppy installed and turn it into a single purpose appliance.
There is a really nice local church that does a lot of work with migrant workers that is using an old 233MHz with 128Mb of RAM that I got from an office upgrade as a simple database. I took all of twenty minutes running the Open Office Base wizard a few times and now they are using it to keep track of donations of food and money,patron lists,mailing lists,etc. There are a lot of folks out there that could use a running machine,and DSL and Puppy run beautifully on as little as a 200Mhz with 96Mb,so stuff we would consider junk can still be quite useful. As for working parts either Goodwill or Freecycle will work,and I have gotten parts to finish out a donated machine out of Goodwill in the past. I hope this helps,and remember that stuff we consider old crap could be really useful to someone who has almost nothing. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.