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YouTube Yanks Free Tibet Video After IOC Pressure

RevWaldo writes "The International Olympic Committee filed a copyright infringement claim yesterday against YouTube for hosting video of a Free Tibet protest at the Chinese Consulate in Manhattan Thursday night. The video depicts demonstrators conducting a candlelight vigil and projecting a protest video onto the consulate building; the projection features recent footage of Tibetan monks being arrested and riffs on the Olympic logo of the five interlocking rings, turning them into handcuffs. YouTube dutifully yanked the video, but it can still be seen on Vimeo. (Be advised; there is some brief footage of bloody, injured monks.)"

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  1. Re:The IOC cannot allow unofficial use of the ring by mr_mischief · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These people aren't trying to identify anything else as the Olympics. They're trying to say the IOC is complicit with suppression and torture. The Olympic rings are being used to identify who they're supposed to identify, so there's no trademark issue.

  2. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Informative

    It won't be back up. If it does depict the five interlocking rings as the summary states then the IOC will aggressively attack it as infringing. The IOC does not let five interlocking rings fly, no matter the context. Ever. This will be no different. It has nothing to do with the Tibet/China angel - it's purely about the five interlocking rings. Had the video not had that imagery, I'm certain it'd be fine (from the IOC standpoint, at least).

  3. Re:In response to your sig... by asdir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to justify what the Chinese government does and not to say that a new Tibetan government could be a democratic one adhering to human rights, but the previous leadership in Tibet indeed was more than just a tad theocratic and therefore not democratic at all. However, Wikipedia will tell you that it is debated how bad the caste system really was. Still, as I said, that is besides the point since it was before 1950. And as a German I'd like to say: I would not want to be judged by my country's history pre 1950 either. :-S

  4. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by Eil · · Score: 5, Informative

    It wouldn't surprise me if the legal situation at YouTube was that they yank any clip against which there is a properly filed copyright complaint, and that they follow up later on the actual applicability of copyright law.

    I work for a web hosting company and thus have some exposure to this type of thing.

    In a nutshell, you're entirely correct. Under the DMCA, providers are required by law to remove the "offending" material upon receipt of an infringement notice. If they don't, they become liable for infringement as well. No real proof of ownership is required, the author of the notice simply has to say it belongs to them. When we receive one of these, all we do is suspend the concerned account, forward the DMCA to the customer, and then our job is done.

    The only thing that makes the DMCA bearable for us is the fact that we're off the hook if our customer decides to unsuspend the account and make the content available again after receiving the notice. From then on, it's a legal battle between the alleged copyright holder and the alleged infringer.

    In this case (depending on how draconian YouTube/Google decides to feel today), the user can simply re-upload the video to YouTube and if the alleged copyright holder wants to battle it further, they have to use the legal system to get subpoenas, court orders, etc for further action. (But of course IANAL, so feel free to poke holes in my understanding of the DMCA here.)

  5. Protected Satire by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Changing the Olympic logo into handcuffs, while certainly offensive to some, is clearly protected political satire akin to flag burning. YouTube should be ashamed, and the posters of the video should counter-file that their video is protected fair use.

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  6. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by mikelu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple popular ones:
    http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
    http://www.case.edu/affil/tibet/tibetanSociety/social.htm

    Etc., etc. Now, the fact that Tibet was formerly ruled by an oppressive, fanatical, and theocratic regime characterized by slavery doesn't make what China is doing now correct.

    However, from the perspective of someone fighting for human rights, claiming that it was some sort of "peaceful paradise" can only undermine positive efforts.

    Acknowledge that life in pre-China Tibet was absolutely terrible for the average person, acknowledge that life for the average Tibetan has improved dramatically in terms of education, quality of life, etc., and then, from this more realistic position, demand more.

    Propping up what is understood by anyone knowledgeable about Tibet as a myth only hurts efforts to improve human rights and religious freedom in China.

  7. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by Phreakiture · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pentavirate

    Pardon the nitpick . . . I don't think that word is right. It appeared in a comedy film as a word-geek riff on secret societies and conspiracy theories. The word itself is wrong (which is the joke) because it is a build-up on triumvirate, latin for "three men". Penta, however, is a Greek prefix for 5. I think you are looking for something more like "quintumvirate".

    I'll shut up now.

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  8. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by tambo · · Score: 5, Informative
    The IOC does not let five interlocking rings fly, no matter the context. Ever.

    They don't have that right. That's the point of parody.

    Jerry Falwell certainly didn't want his image used by Hustler Magazine, but he didn't have the power to stop them.

    - David Stein

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    Computer over. Virus = very yes.
  9. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by Wavicle · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem with getting "The Story" on pre-1950 Tibet is that most of the information comes from two groups: The Chinese who wish to paint it as a caste system where the Lama caste mercilously ruled over the population with an iron fist; and the Tibet government in exile who want to paint the Chinese as an oppressive government mercilously ruling over the population with an iron fist.

    The closest thing I have found to an independent review is this skeptoid article.

    And for laughs, and an opinion not tilted by propaganda from either side, but maybe a little biased, is this Penn & Teller B*llsh*t bit.

    The responses to the above from the Free Tibet crowd tend to go something like "But *THIS* Dalai Lama was a good one! He would have ruled with justice and compassion." Well, okay, maybe he really would. But history has shown us pretty conclusively that absolute monarchies tend to have more wicked than wonderful rulers.

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    Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
    Edward Everett (1794 - 1865)
  10. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you call your car? An "autokinetikon" or a "suimobil"?

  11. Re:I'll judge them in 3 days. by halivar · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you call your car? An "autokinetikon" or a "suimobil"?

    A decepticon.