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reCAPTCHA Hard At Work, Rescuing Fading Texts

sciencehabit writes "Computer scientists have developed a program, called reCAPTCHA, which is being used in lieu of CAPTCHA by several sites, to help digitize old books and newspapers. The reCAPTCHA takes entries from old and faded texts that optical scanners and digital-text readers have trouble with. So every time you solve that string of crooked letters, you may actually be helping historians digitally reconstruct a page from the 1908 New York Times." The Science Now story links to the longer and more informative article at Ars Technica. (We last mentioned this program last year — and now it's good to get some sense of how well it's working.)

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  1. Not new by JazzyMusicMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ticketmaster and other sites have already been doing this for a while. Go to ticketmaster and search for tickets, you'll see two words. One is known and the other is unknown. If you don't believe me, try to guess which one they know and misspell the other one on purpose (or don't, this is for historic posterity =) )

    1. Re:Not new by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Informative

      So is the US Patent and Trademark Office, as part of the process of using PAIR, the Patent Application Information Retrieval system, which lets the public look at information about patent applications that have been published.

    2. Re:Not new by felipekk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Facebook uses reCAPTCHA. I guess you can make something useful out of the millions of useless teenagers wasting their time on Facebook.

    3. Re:Not new by grahamd0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Facebook uses reCAPTCHA. I guess you can make something useful out of the millions of useless teenagers wasting their time on Facebook.

      That's not fair.

      Plenty of useless adults waste their time on Facebook.

    4. Re:Not new by Firehed · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do they really? From what I was able to tell, it's not specified as reCAPTCHA anywhere in the window; having looked at the reCAPTCHA site from a development side I could swear that I read that you needed to give credit if developing a custom style for it. Either I'm remembering wrong, they've got a deal, or FB is undergoing one of the stupidest TOS violations ever.

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    5. Re:Not new by erbmjw · · Score: 3, Informative
      from reCAPTCHA FAQ

      When showing reCAPTCHA to the user, is it possible not to show the reCAPTCHA logo? We allow you to customize the theme of reCAPTCHA with our Client API. You are still required to have text on your website which states that you are using reCAPTCHA, however with our theming API, you are free to do this in a way that blends in to your site.

    6. Re:Not new by Tassach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because that's so different than the thousands of useless geeks wasting their time on /.

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    7. Re:Not new by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would imagine that they use multiple logins to verify one word - it's not like people don't mistype captchas in the first place.

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    8. Re:Not new by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quoting from the NPR story which aired earlier today:

      more than 40,000 Web sites -- including popular ones such as Ticketmaster, Facebook and Craigslist -- are using a new kind of security program called reCAPTCHA.

    9. Re:Not new by sangreal66 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do they really? From what I was able to tell, it's not specified as reCAPTCHA anywhere in the window; having looked at the reCAPTCHA site from a development side I could swear that I read that you needed to give credit if developing a custom style for it. Either I'm remembering wrong, they've got a deal, or FB is undergoing one of the stupidest TOS violations ever.

      They do give attribution to reCAPTCHA. You have to click on "What's this?"

      This is a standard security test that we use to prevent spammers from creating fake accounts and spamming users. Our captchas are provided by ReCaptcha

    10. Re:Not new by Random+Walk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Quoting from the NPR story which aired earlier today:

      more than 40,000 Web sites -- including popular ones such as Ticketmaster, Facebook and Craigslist -- are using a new kind of security program called reCAPTCHA.

      That's scary. The way ReCaptcha works allows the reCaptcha server to collect the IPs of reCaptcha users (along with the reCaptcha-enabled website they are using). If many websites are using reCaptcha, it allows to track users as they are moving through the web, from one reCaptcha-enabled website to the next.

      The idea is cute, but the implementation is fundamentally broken and a huge breach of privacy.

    11. Re:Not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's scary. The way ReCaptcha works allows the reCaptcha server to collect the IPs of reCaptcha users (along with the reCaptcha-enabled website they are using). If many websites are using reCaptcha, it allows to track users as they are moving through the web, from one reCaptcha-enabled website to the next.

      Only if you actually use the JavaScript API. If you want to protect the privacy of your site's users, you are free to use the server side API of your choice. This gives them (at most) a count of how many recaptchas your users have solved. By the way, the recaptcha site provides - amongst others - ready-made server side bindings for PHP, Java, Ruby, Python and Perl.

    12. Re:Not new by Alzheimers · · Score: 3, Funny

      But you...

      *sigh* ...Nevermind. It's Friday. Go have a beer or something.

  2. Validate your data, guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can usually tell which of the two words is from a real old text. With high probability (>90%) I can correctly answer the real CAPTCHA and replace someone's OCR'd word with "penis".

    I've only ever done this maybe ten or twenty times, but it could easily become an automatic part of using the system.

    1. Re:Validate your data, guys! by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since they use entries from several users to validate correct translations for OCR'ed text, this probably won't cause them major problems. OTOH, I wonder if they can track the accuracy of each user's inputs and, if it becomes evident that a user is either incompetent or attempting to screw with the system, take appropriate measures.

      When someone's karma starts dropping into the negative range, they should let us know how well this worked out. If anyone can see their posts, that is.

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    2. Re:Validate your data, guys! by Spasmodeus · · Score: 2, Funny
      As soon as I heard about this project, I figured there'd be people finding ways to abuse it.

      I can see future generations sitting down for a good read:

      MOBY COCK

      Chapturd One

      Call me LOLOLFAG...

  3. Cool possible uses by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man, I would love to see the results if this technique was used for an ontological purpose.

    Please type in the word from the choices below that most closely relates to this word: OLD

    HISTORIC
    LIFESPAN

    Interesting shit indeed.

    1. Re:Cool possible uses by burgundysizzle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or perhaps SLASHDOT-READER:

      OVERWEIGHT

      GEEK

      SPENDS-TO-MUCH-TIME-USING-COMPUTERS

      ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE

      I fit into the category ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE. The only generalisation that is missing about slashdotters is the one about girlfriends.

    2. Re:Cool possible uses by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 2, Informative

      The point is to see what the populace thinks the relation is.

      If you think google is the end all be all of absolute information then you already fail.

  4. Huh? 1908 New York Times? by mschuyler · · Score: 2, Funny

    The New York Times is already online from 1851 onwards. the concept is cool, truly, but why not CAPTCHA something not already accomplished? Oh, I know. That was, like, a metaphor, right?

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    1. Re:Huh? 1908 New York Times? by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am almost certain that it is not all there in its entirety. There are bits that are not online specifically because of OCR errors. That is going to be true with any large volume of OCRed text.

  5. DMCA Violation by Nymz · · Score: 5, Funny

    The feature known as FADING was designed to protect copyright works from being pirated by becoming illegible before the work could fall into the public domain.

  6. Prior art by armanox · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think that erosion on stone tablets predates fading by quite a bit....

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    1. Re:Prior art by Nymz · · Score: 2, Funny

      I really wish the RIAA (Rock Industry Association of the Archean eon) would update their business model to the current Phanerozoic eon.

  7. gmail captchas by v1 · · Score: 2

    a little OT I know but is anyone else having a bad time with gmail's captchas? I've tried signing up several of our customers for gmail recently and it's becoming really hard to get them right. The "audio" playback used to be the saving grace, but the last two I did it sounded like ten people were talking to me all at once with no discernible key voice. (and last I succeeded, the string to be entered was spoken in three groups, by three different voices)

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  8. Image Captchas by pembo13 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've found implementing a simple "please choose the name of the item seen bellow" eliminates a large amount of spam (all?) but has the problem of not being viable for blind people.

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    1. Re:Image Captchas by Martz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just use an alt tag.

  9. Re:One Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The following security test allows us to validate you are a human and not an automated script.

    please type the following two words in the text box below

    you moron

    ____________ _____________

  10. Finally logged in by narcberry · · Score: 2, Funny

    Took me a bit to get past the new security measures, But I got a coupon 5 cents off my next shoe purchase.

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  11. Re:reCAPTCHA and Open Source by corbettw · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are multiple libraries for reCAPTCHA already published, all under the MIT License. Just see http://code.google.com/p/recaptcha/ for a list of them.

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  12. Re:AC for the plain old CAPTCHA by grahamd0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let me introduce you to my friend, the question mark.

  13. Re:One Problem by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Funny

    One FUNDAMENTAL problem with this

    ... is that you didn't RTFA.

  14. Re:Problems With ReCaptcha by Robotech_Master · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've seen one ReCAPTCHA string that was just a distorted entirely illegible blob of ink.

    Just do what I did: click the "refresh" button to the right for a new word pair and enter that one.

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  15. It turns out... by symbolset · · Score: 2, Informative

    That slashdot's Goatse troll server guy proves useful.

    Note: This is not a troll. One of the guys that offers open web services to slashdot trolls is also responsible for considerable development of CAPTCHA breakage and is an eminent Debian developer. This is why I've said that we should respect his efforts despite the unpleasant side effects. The truly brilliant we should grant exceptions from social behavior because they discover things more proper folk would not.

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    1. Re:It turns out... by argent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How is being responsible for CAPTCHA breakage useful?

      Look, just because the guy who more or less invented both trolling and automated trolling is an eminent UNIX guru and textbook author that doesn't mean his trolling on net.suicide was any less disgusting. I was appalled at the people who laughed along with Pike when he revealed that he was behind Bimmler and Shaney. This kind of thing is just not acceptable no matter who you are.

  16. Recaptcha doesn't recapture context by Mumei+no+koshinuke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When solving these I sometimes find that there's more than one possibility for an illegible word, yet I can't tell which it is without knowing the context.
    For example, in some fonts "cost" and "cast" might be indistinguishable in the image shown. But given the context of the sentence it's trivial for a human to tell the difference.
    Suppose that they found these words on which people disagreed and had another captcha system which showed the full sentence. I'd guess they could improve their accuracy significantly in this case. Since they could prescreen for ambiguous words using the current captcha system, even if fewer people were willing to solve the "large" captcha, they would still get all the solutions they needed.

  17. Re:RTFA by Psychotria · · Score: 2, Informative

    The authors also tested software designed to crack CAPTCHAs against images created using reCAPTCHA, and found that they failed completely. The authors ascribe this to the fact that the letters in scanned images contain distortions that are not the result of a clean mathematical transformation. User response times were also measured, but there were no significant differences between the time it took users to handle traditional systems and that required to use reCAPTCHA.

  18. Use to hide your own email addy by RJFerret · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can also use reCaptcha for your own email address, and be more willing to provide it "publicly" since they'd have to answer the reCaptcha to get to the mailto... reCaptcha mailhide

  19. Interesting field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My company is working on digitizing a large volume of old text (19th century government documents). There are a number of problems unique to old text:
    - OCR breaks down due to archaic letter shapes, smudging, letter damage and paper deterioration.
    - we evaluated OCR versus having the entire text retyped by Indians, and ended up going with the Indians. The only way to get sufficient accuracy (>99%) was to have everything done twice and do a comparison.
    - Even then, the typed text has to be checked using both automated and manual processes. The text is highly structured, which makes automatic checks possible, but we can't catch everything that way. Then again, the checks necessary for our text are more extensive than for an old newspaper.
    - For old texts, your average spelling checker is useless. You end up adding loads of words to the dictionary.

    ReCAPTCHA solves one of these problem (text entry), but I suspect a fair amount of work remains. E.g. sometimes you need context to decipher a word correctly.