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Debian's Testing Branch Nears Completion

DeviceGuru writes "With Debian Lenny (aka 'testing') poised to displace Etch as the popular Linux distribution's 'stable' branch possibly as soon as next month, blogger Rick Lehrbaum loaded the latest preview (beta 2) of Lenny's KDE CD image onto an available Thinkpad, and took it for a spin. How's it coming along? After detailing a handful of issues — and offering solutions for each (except Bluetooth support) — he concludes: 'Other than the need for a few hacks and fixes, my main complaint with it is its inclusion of way too many of KDE's rich set of applications, such as games, tools, etc.' From the looks of it, looks like Lenny might be the new 'Debian stable' soon!"

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  1. Re:Dependencies are annoying. by kriebz · · Score: 5, Informative

    'kde' is just a metapackage: it depends on the packages in that list (directly or indirectly). There's nothing wrong with leaving those other packages installed. The new apt/dpkg conventions try to help you remove cruft, so they let you remove those packages with `apt-get autoremove`. Instead of that, install a few that you need by hand to remove them from the list. When you don't see any in this list that you want, then run auto-remove.

  2. Re:Dependencies are annoying. by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Informative

    But KDE is simply a metapackage much like ubuntu-desktop, for example, if you want to install KDE you simply do sudo apt-get install kde, removing the package KDE only removes the KDE metapackage.

    The only point of the KDE metapackage is to provide a 1-click install for KDE.

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  3. Re:Dependencies are annoying. by obi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read what apt says.

    "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:"
    This does _not_ mean they're going to be removed.

    "The following packages will be REMOVED:"
    Only that specific convenience meta-package gets removed.

    To further illustrate this, check this line:
    "After this operation, 41.0kB disk space will be freed."
    Somehow I think KDE takes more than 41.0kB, don't you?

    If you really wanted to remove the kde meta-package together with all the dependencies that it pulled in (so all the things you didn't explicitly apt-get install yourself), you'd use "apt-get autoremove kde".

  4. Re:advice for upgrading a server? by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least do a simulated dist-upgrade by using the -s switch before doing the "real" one!

          apt-get -s dist-upgrade

    Sometimes, just sometimes, it'll catch things which might go wrong before they actually happen.

  5. This article is full of errors and bad advice by timrichardson · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not Beta 2 of Lenny. Only the installation program is Beta 2. So that's a big mistake.

    And the mistakes continue.

    The advice to remove iceweasel and replace it with Firefox is crazy. Iceweasel is 99.99% Firefox, and the version that comes with Debian is optimised to use libraries and other software in the distribution (like spell check). If you follow the advice and use the mozilla version of firefox, you lose this integration.

    Some sites "sniff" for browser type, and iceweasel is not detected as Firefox (wsj.com, google docs). This is easily fixed by going to about:config, searching for useragent, and changing "iceweasel" to "firefox".
    All firefox extensions that I know of work with iceweasel.

    To install acrobat reader, just add the http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ repositories, and add the package acroread with Synaptic or apt-get.

  6. Re:advice for upgrading a server? by shish · · Score: 4, Informative

    Leave it alone and only apply the security updates. I have a server happily running sarge that I have no plans to change.

    Ummm.. you know that sarge no longer gets security updates, right? :S (announcement)

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