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Anti-Net Neutrality Astroturfer Exposed

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Ever wonder about all those groups claiming Google had a 'search monopoly' (as if there are no other search engines), or worse, coming out against Net Neutrality? CNet has a story about a shady DC lobbying group called LawMedia Group, being paid by Microsoft and Comcast, that is behind many of these attacks. That said, it's a mystery why they weren't able to pay more authoritative groups than the American Corn Growers Association or the League of Rural Voters to weigh in on technical matters. As a computer geek from corn country, I wouldn't solicit their opinion on tractor repair, let alone Internet policy."

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  1. More information on Law Media Group by linumax · · Score: 5, Informative

    can be found here and here.

  2. Re:It does. So what? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the FTC website:

    http://www.ftc.gov/bc/compguide/maintain.htm

    While it is not illegal to have a monopoly position in a market, the antitrust laws make it unlawful to maintain or attempt to create a monopoly through tactics that either unreasonably exclude firms from the market or significantly impair their ability to compete. A single firm may commit a violation through its unilateral actions, or a violation may result if a group of firms work together to monopolize a market.

    A common complaint is that some companies try to monopolize a market through "predatory" or below-cost pricing. This can drive out smaller firms that cannot compete at those prices. But the lower prices a large retailer offers may simply reflect efficiencies from spreading overhead costs over a larger volume of sales. Because the antitrust laws encourage competition that leads to low prices, courts and antitrust authorities challenge predatory activities only when they will lead to higher prices.

  3. Jan and Dean by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    "It's the little old lady from Pasadena..."

    He got the idea for the song when a car dealership became notorious for claiming that all their cars were driven by a "little old lady from Pasadena", and therefore in allegedly prime shape.

  4. Re:color me naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe that MS is still pro net neutrality. My understanding, and the summary is unhelpful to understanding, is that Microsoft is paying them for their attack on Google and Comcast is paying them for their attack on net neutrality. The same organization is paid for two separate jobs.

  5. Corn Growers? by wellingj · · Score: 3, Informative

    Speaking of tinfoil and cranial coverings, one would have to wonder what the Corn Growers Association has to do with the Iowa MS Windows Rebate?

  6. Re:color me naive by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 3, Informative

    The summary is misleading. If you RTFA, it makes it clear that Microsoft's association was limited to lobbying against a Google-Yahoo deal unrelated to Net Neutrality. Microsoft isn't paying them a dime for anything related to Net Neutrality as far as I can tell.

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  7. I think this was supposed to be a joke by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't think this guy was trolling, I think it was a joking reference to McCain's own astroturfing scheme where he gives points for swag to people who cut and paste his talking points into blog comments.

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  8. Re:Shocked! by GodKingAmit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even though you've been modded troll, I still thought your post was funny. For those without a clue: John McCain's website has a list of quotes his supporters are supposed to use on blogs/forums. Parent's post is one of them. This was covered on /. (probably more than once)

  9. Re:Search Monopoly by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even back in the Bad Old Days I never had to pay the Microsoft tax when I upgraded. I went out, bought parts, put them together and had a new computer with whatever OS I wanted. Not only that, I had exactly the components I needed, not the ones somebody else decided that I'd want, and it cost much less, even if you left out my not paying for an OS I neither needed nor wanted.

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  10. Re:Basically by rdoger6424 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  11. Re:Shocked! by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Informative

    Um, who do you think owns a corporation and decides on what to say regarding it?

    People who are not liable for anything the corporation says on their behalf?

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  12. Re:Shocked! by Cormophyte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Harbor? As any avid Simpsons watcher within any of the last ten years will tell you, he doesn't harbor hostile feelings toward Fox. They're off to sea, full sail, and if Groening had his way they'd be packed with nuclear explosives and headed straight for Rupert Murdoch's front door. Unfortunately the Simpson's brand doesn't pull in the kind of capitol it did back when everyone had a Bart keychain, so his hostility is instead packed chock full of beans. Very old beans.

  13. So who do i believe? The author of this article? by plasmacutter · · Score: 3, Informative

    from their response column, by a poster who has no history and joined the same day:

    Most of you I am sure won't remember who Declan is... He was a prominent supporter of Microsoft in a newsgroup called "Appraising Microsoft" That group was active in the mid90's. That group was one of many spearheading the push for the justice department to "corral" Microsoft and prevent them form screwing up the computer industry. Alas as most of you are using Microsoft Windows, that group and many others failed. And as a result we have Microsoft as the operating system on the majority of computer world wide. And now we are at least 10 years behind in the software industry. Also Declan is attributed to starting and failing to stop a rumour regarding Al Gore. Declan was the sycophant reporter on Air Force One, traveling in the entourage of George Bush. It was Declan who misquoted Al Gore and ran off with the rumour that Al Gore Created / invented the internet. And although Declan has been laughed out loud at by the people who are aware of him and his writing, many of you who are not involved in the computer industry from the early days, are unaware of his actions. Declan has zero credibility in the information oped world, then as he does now. Unfortunately Declan will continue to create havoc in the press due to the fact that most of the public are unaware of his sycophantic habits. He will inexorably crawl up the butt of anyone with a buck to offer to his retirement fund. And since he writes about the information age, most people are blindly unaware of the facts and opinions that vary greatly in that arena. since most are unaware of the facts, they accept the writings of a few.

    Sigh.... and Declan makes a living writing about this rubbish. Rubbish he is somewhat responsible for.....

    A quick google of "declan al gore internet" gets me this, among many other results.
    http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2000/10/39301

    This is confirmed by the wikipedia entry, which has not been edited for quite some time:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declan_McCullagh&action=history

    So, this guy is telling me the extent of the astroturfing? The guy who helped swiftboat gore?

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  14. Re:what difference ? by daemonburrito · · Score: 3, Informative

    [...] for if net neutrality is lost, they will be at the mercy of the teleccoms companies - remember that they have been pouring too much investment and time into internet related products.

    I'm not sure if this is accurate any longer. I've noticed new themes in the astroturfing on slashdot lately that stress the "approved application" model made famous by the smashing success that is Verizon's VCast.

    Putting on my tinfoil for a moment, here's a scenario:

    Microsoft negotiates a deal with the telecoms. The telecoms and Microsoft develop some new trusted computing abomination. Microsoft has then positioned itself on high ground for a coming crapflood of ISP lockdown software, being a platform for "trusted applications" that aren't "dangerous for the network" (hacker tools like encryption; Hi Brett! ;) ).

    Microsoft "buries" Google, as Google has to negotiate individual and separate contracts with all the ISPs (which would have no requirement for fairness), telecoms get to collect tolls (and use the contract terms as bargaining chips in negotiations with Microsoft and the big four media).

    As a bonus, this would destroy all open software on the internet, as FOSS couldn't implement whatever patent-encumbered-proprietary-secured-by-obscurity crapware that will be required to work with ISPs, and remain free as in speech.

    I am no longer sure at all that Microsoft has anything to fear from the anti-net-neutrality club.